Has Ward the courage to go fight Froch in England?

I didn't think much about Ward BEFORE the Super 6, however as an up and coming challenger he should have fought some fights away or fought for his first title away or at least defend it away. He had all his fights in his home country unlike Froch, Kessler, Abraham, Taylor & Dirrell. The first 4 being more accomplished and more of a draw than Ward at the time.

 

Andre Ward

is a boring ****.


I rather watch Wladimir Klithscko vs Sultan

 

Butt hurt!! Awww poor baby! Froch lost, get over it.

 

Bute did prove SOMETHING in that fight with Froch......he proved that if your gonna climb to the top in front of your own fans, your should never leave home vs a guy of Forch's calibre.

Ward Froch 2, nuetral ground and Ward does a repeat 9/3- 7/5 type clear UD. Ward Froch 2.......can't see Ward fairing all that much better than Bute.

One thing is on Ward's side though, is that the DO or Die 110% Carl Froch may have been done when the fight was. We'll see come Sept when Kessler comes to Knottingham.:deal

 

The froch ward fight was ugly as hell.

Ward's constantly looks to punch and immediately get inside to hold and clinch. Rarely have i seen a ref break the action, they just tend to let him get on with it and when the fighters finally do part he always throws a cheeky shot. Very similar to punching off the break obviously not illegal. Either way it is **** and leaves a bad taste in my mouth when i watch him get away with it.

Froch and kessler both were higher ranked than Ward entering into the super 6, Kessler travelled as a champ and lost his title to ward in a questionable bout in Oakland. Froch too travelled to America to fight Ward and lost his tile in the process. Coupled with the fact that ward made it painfully clear that he would not be travelling at all throughout the super 6 I really cannot see this kid ever fighting out of his comfort zone.

He is not about returning favours by doing what froch and kessler both did and going to Europe to fight as a champ. As effective as he is you cannot tell me he is not pampered and boring..

And I think he knows that in europe there is a chance his style wouldn't be tolerated by many of the refs, thus the reason why he didn't want to travel for the S6.

He is no floyd mayweather yet some on here believe he deserves to call the shots like floyd does.. Clearly they are not even comparable.

 

I get it now. Before Ward -Froch, Carl was going to give Ward a beating because ward couldn't hurt him and Carl punches sooo hard and has an iron chin. After a thorough ass whooping, Ward clinches too much, the ref didn't do this or that, Ward stepped on Carl's big toe, blah, blah, blah.... When I look at the official record it will say Ward W12 Froch. All the sour grapes bull**** will be left for you clowns to whine about on forums like these with your hypothetical situations. I have an idea for a thread. What if Froch actually had some technical boxing skills and a clue on how to fight inside? What if Ward re-matched
Froch on the moon? Get over the fact the Cobra got his silly ass tamed!!!!!

 

Give me your address, I'll send you a box of tissues!!!!!

 

I've been amazed by this thread.

I never realised that US fans didn't know that they had home advantage in big fights. atsch

I was glad when Hatton went over and fought Collazo, Mayweather and Malignaggi. Froch fighting Taylor, Johnson and Ward.

I didn't know US fans weren't aware those fighters were giving the American home advantage. It seemed so obvious.

Fighting in a different country is harder, it can be a decisive factor.

 

To be fair Carls got a pretty ugly style , they were never going to match up well.

I know we love hyperbole and absolutes on this site but thats not how things are.

Does Ward get away with iffy tactis ? yeah he does. Is that all he has in his locker ? no of course not.

Should Ward have had to fight in europe during the tourney ? Yes. Does it matter now ? no

Now that hes champ should he have the right to say come to me ? Yes. Would a warrior care ? No.

Would Ward have won v Kess and Froch away from home ? Probably. he may have been forced to fight "cleaner" and it possibly could have upset his rythym but it seems unlikely and we'll never know now anyway.

Is it a fact that must be accepted that there are more boxing fans in the US and therefor big fights tend to happen there ? Yes it is.

So in the end the tourney was skewed ever so slightly in Wards favour but probably not so much that it made a difference and he now has every reason to stay home so theres no point moaning about it

 

Americans are like we were just at the end of our dominant period , drunk on power , internationally lazy and not a little arrogant.

Every empire gets like that just before the end.

 

How intelligently sensitive of you

I agree.

None of it matters now in that what is done is done.. We will never know if ward would have lost on the road during the S6. One thing i do know is that he is boring and will always leave himself to question because he seeks to be pampered and therefore hold an advantage over his opponent.

 

And he beat all them all. Your point? Look, you Brits and other bitchers need to change your ****ing diaper. You think Ward might have had some fights away from home when he was busy winning a Gold Medal in the Summer Olympics? That was in Athens, Greece BTW. A good fighter is a good fighter, it doesn't matter where he is, and if it does, he's not mentally tough enough. Ward is one of the P4P best in the world, that's not an accident or consequence of where he fights, it's a consequence of being the best fighter. You might not like how he fights and you might not like that he beat someone you like but that's just too damn bad isn't it?

I saw someone mention that he probably didn't want to fight overseas because he thought his style wouldn't be well received overseas and cost him a fight. You're probably right, they would gladly **** the American fighter in favor of their own guy because they don't appreciate his style even though he was beating the **** out of their fighter. I have no doubts in my mind about that, neither does Andre Dirrell. I wouldn't want to go somewhere where there was reasonable doubt whether or not I'd get a fair shake either. Either way though, if I were confident in my skills as the superior fighter I'd also know it didn't matter to some extent because I would be able to win regardless. If these guys from overseas are so confident than it shouldn't matter now should it? I never saw anyone trying to get Andre Ward overseas either so whose fault is it? Is it anyone's fault? Probably not, just a consequence of circumstance.

Ward doesn't have to go anywhere if he doesn't want to, he's the champ, he's the best in the division, and as that is such you come to him, not the other way around, and if you can actually beat him it won't matter if it's here, Nairobi, Guadalajara, Beirut, Tazmania, or a phone booth.

 

So it was ok for the european fighters (champions) to run the risk of fighting in america and their style not being well received? Or in kesslers case get butted and held until he was stopped? Kessler was the champ too and deserved better.

It was ok that lewis was robbed against holyfield?

So by your logic it is ok for Ward not to want to run the risk of being on the receiving end of some kind of hometown cooking but it is ok to expect all the other fighters to run the risk?

for the record dirrell wasn't robbed, it was a very close fight in another country where the judges didn't enjoy watching him run, cry and behave like a little boy.

 

So much bitterness, tsk tsk. Kessler lost, Froch lost, Abraham lost. All in convincing fashion to Andre Ward. I know it stings that this boring American sent three over hyped Euro's packing. Get over it, none of it matters now. Just enjoy froch's win over another over hyped bum.