Why Klitschko took it easy on Ibragimov

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  1. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    thanks.
     
  2. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That wasnt the case, Steward would of never put Wlad and his career on line if it was still broken. They would of just postponed the fight until it healed, his team is not that dumb to have Wlad take that type of chance in the ring with a game fighter like Iggy.
     
  3. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    true but not true.

    sport is entertainment and the heavies are the rolls royce of boxing. everyone likes to see an exciting fight - everyone.

    but from a fighter's perspective, reaching the heights that wlad has reached and getting fairly demoralised by the likes of corey sanders is a bloody big blow to a fighter's confidence - especially considering the klitschko brothers' solid rep while they were fighting in germany and before they hit the US (i was in switzerland at that time so it was easy to follow the momentum they gained in europe).

    wlad was always considered the better fighter at that stage which, as a full package, just isn't true in hindsight.

    sure it would be great if wlad's performances matched his KO ratio and build - especially for the crowd. but while you're worrying about your 50 bucks he's actually done a terrific job (especially mentally) to put himself back on top again. and that is like looking in the mirror and putting into question everything you've worked on and thought of yourself over the past 20 years and having to find the resilience and character to reach your goal any way you can.

    any way you can.

    no disrespect - but if you can understand how hard, even in part, for some fighters it is to come back from a corrie sanders style experience then you'll stop moaning about why your life experience is lacking because someone who is truly finding out who they are and what they are capable of just made your popcorn and coke taste not as good as it could have done because you chose to watch it for 50 bucks....
     
  4. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    it would be pretty funny if he said both of his hands were broken like another fighter once did :yep
     
  5. Ray Mercer

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    Good great for him , he won. In reality I could care less about his victory, the only thing I care about is being entertained as any boxing fan should be who shells out 50$ for a fight. This does not mean I need to see a brawl but I don't think demanding some action and aggression is out of the question.
     
  6. Punisher33

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    How did I know that was coming sooner or later.:roll: Don King told him to say that, because Peter was deemed unbreakable, just like he told Tyson to make excuses after the first Holyfield fight, Peter's not the first fighter to do it, and he wont be the last.
     
  7. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    read my response to your last post then tell me what you disagree with.
     
  8. Ray Mercer

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    You win some, you lose some. Lewis got rocked by Rahman, sucked it up, accepted the defeat and came back the very next fight to return the favor. Holyfield after being rocked by Bowe in their third fight comes back and puts the most feared puncher of all time on his ass. You didn't see these guys come back afraid to be hit and play it safe. Holyfield went after Tyson and did everything he possibly could to finish him. A guy like that will always be more revered.
     
  9. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    yes(ok only amateur,years ago)
    He said 'dont cry and dont watch',as if a fan doesnt have the right to be bored and disappointed.
    If Wlads entitled to be dull and cautious,why isnt a fan entitled to complain about it.Freedom to fight as you want,but no freedom to moan as you want.
    Moreover this wasnt a charity fight.Wlad was being well paid to perform in the most famous sports arena in the world.
    Boxing is a sport,but its also entertainment,with a lot of competition these days.0nce it fully ceases to be viable entertainment it will just become a minor,niche sport,only relevant in the Olympics like Judo or archery and the like.
     
  10. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    agreed to a point but holding his station at the top of the heap isn't as a secure as people think if he doesn't play it right.

    i know it's frustrating when the spectacle doesn't live up to the hype but wlad just doesn't have the luxury to back up his words as a tyson does. despite the fact he's a very strong guy, he just doesn't have the luxury to open up because that sanders fights will stay in his mind forever - so he does know how easily it can all cave in.

    bottom line - for me at least - is that it's a lot of blood and toil to even get to wlad's stage, and i don't think that's comparable to losing 50 for a weekend fight that just doesnt deliver.

    i can understand why anyone would feel ripped off - but put yourself in wlad's shoes.
     
  11. Steve Fox

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    I'm surprised the ref didn't stop the fight to save the crowd from further punishment.
     
  12. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    good post.very balanced.
    Youre able to be objective and see it from the fighters perspective a lot better than i can.:good
     
  13. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    Against a harder hitting guy like Peter, I would understand and agree. However, we know Iggy isn't a ko artist. So why didn't he fight the same against Brock, Byrd, Austin? If anything, Austin proved to have some pop as he dropped Iggy in their fist bout, and Brock showed enough power to KO a guy out cold such as Zuri Lawrence. It was clear after 3 rounds Ibragimov was outmatched and Klitschko showed he could land when he wanted to. Ibragimov showed no threat throughout the entire fight, with exception to the wrestling.