Luis Ortiz is better than Chisora, Arreola, Pulev and Mitchell

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  1. Santiago

    Santiago Active Member Full Member

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    Look at what the dude has to say about Luis Ortiz.

    He said that he is better than Chisora, Arreola, Pulev and Mitchell ...

    and adds ...

    "if he fights Mitchell I would go with Ortiz ..."

    http://www.youtube.com/v/-rAq0OMZnV8
     
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  3. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dwyer is wrong in stating that Ortiz won the gold medal in the 2005 World Championships. In truth, the Cubans won the gold medal that year in team championships, and Ortiz was a member of that particular team. I'm pretty certain he was beaten at least once in that very same team championship. Big difference from what Dwyer says.
     
  4. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Overall, I'd say that Ortiz bears some close watching. It's entirely possible that he might beat Seth Mitchell. Ortiz is definitely a hot prospect.

    But I don't think Ortiz can hang with Pulev. Pulev is even bigger than Ortiz, and is no less athletic. Chisora would probably be too much for Ortiz too.
     
  5. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We shouldn't overlook that Ortiz was floored by Aaron Lyons last year. I heard that Ortiz's best shots didn't make much of an impression on Lyons either. Ultimately the fight was stopped in the 8th only because Lyons was cut.

    The upside to Ortiz is that he's fluid, fast, has respectable (not great) power, possesses good moves, can jab or box, and is big. He puts his punches together nicely, and can break a guy down with his body shots. Physically, Ortiz looks like Riddick Bowe, but he doesn't really fight like him (Bowe was much stronger and more dangerous).

    For now, the most serious knock on Ortiz is that he hasn't yet shown his stuff against a top-25 opponent. We need to see Ortiz against the level opponent before we really know what we're dealing with.
     
  6. kenmore

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    The Ustinov fight is interesting. Ustinov is a big but flawed fighter who may prove very beatable against Ortiz. One puzzling thing about this fight is that it will most likely take place in Europe, Ustinov's stomping grounds. Maybe Ortiz's WBA rep will arrange all neutral officials for the fight, though.
     
  7. Kid Cubano

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    Other than both K brothers anybody can beat anybody at the HW division.I havent seen anything special in Ortiz so far,but woudnt surprise me if he beats the names mentioned by OP.
     
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  9. arve lie

    arve lie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its a little surprise Luis Ortiz doing so good in the pro-ranks.
    Back in Cuba he was losing his position as one of the best heavies.
    Yuniesky Gonzalez (8-0) now fighing in Miami as a cruiser defeated him in the cuban championship.
    But many indications he do impress and really serious
    That is not the case with Yuniesky Gonzalez who like to party
     
  10. JeanPaulValley

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    Ortiz? Never heard of this guy. Can't be too special.
     
  11. Santiago

    Santiago Active Member Full Member

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    Luis Ortiz, WBA #2 is now 20-0 with 18 KO!
     
  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Who has Ortiz beaten exactly? ancient shot to pieces Bert Cooper? Zach Page? those are the only names I recognize on his record, and they aren't good either! This guy has faced a worse collection of stiffs than even Wilder, how he he rated at all? He hasn't faced anybody in the top 150!
     
  13. MrMagic

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    He's 34 already, and hasn't done shite.

    I don't understand the hype, personally.. but we'll see...
     
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  15. Rock0052

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    I've got him on my watchlist, but have to see him step it up soon before I rate him as anything more than an intriguing prospect. Time's not exactly on his side.