Angelo Dundee on the klitschkos

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  1. Vladimir23

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    Tyson talks about Klitschkos

    "The Klitschkos are great fighters"

    "All of the best Americans got beat by the Klitschkos and other Eastern Europeans"

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIqgViSn3IA[/ame]
     
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  3. MUHAMMAD ALI FOUGHT AND BEAT:
    Jean-Pierre Coopman from Belgium WBC & WBA WORLD HW CHAMPIONSHIP
    Juergen Blin from Hamburg Germany
    Alfredo Evangelista from Uruguay WBC & WBA WORLD HW CHAMPIONSHIP
    Karl Mildenberger from Germany World Heavyweight Title

    :deal:deal:deal
     
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    slow down homey, neither of the Klitzchos would have been able to touch Ali. Vitaly who I like went tooth and nail with aging Lewis, he did not fight Lewis in his prime. Lewis fought 2 close fights with an aging Holyfield lewis did on get Holyfield in his prime. Prime Lewis versus Prime Vitaly, I'll go with Lewis. Prime Lewis versus Prime Holyfield, I wouldn't pick this one because I still give Lewis that punchers chance to wreck Holyfields day. Now Ali VS Holyfield=Ali, Ali VS Lewis=Ali, Ali VS either Klitzcho=Ali. Ali proved that he would fight anyone and beat anyone, even after most of his prime year were taken away. In my opinion we never really saw what ali would have been able to accomplish, because of those lost years stole a bunch of the experience he would have gained. #1 ATG at Heavyweight Muhammud Ali(formerly known as Cassius Clay)
     
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    I agree.

    Lewis is the only one with a rounded skill set for his size, I don't see it being the norm either because I think the number of really big men with the right attributes and least compromise is going to be very small.

    The Klit's have done pretty well,but both are more limited than Lewis.

    If you took there size down Lewis would still compete, the Klit's would get retired.

    You only have to look at a phenom like Tyson, to realize size ain't that important if you have a man in front of you who has hunger and the tools to apply and impose his will.

    The thing with the really big men is they have no stamina, I think the public will want to watch competitive exciting fights, not some PED gym ****** freaks cuddling for 12 rounds.
     
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    Vlad, I would have thought you would have given up by now after the repeated beatings you have taken on here with your funny Neo Nazi stich, I say funny but it;s not really funny as in Ha Ha.

    It's just funny that someone who eludes to being a boxing fan yet does not grasp **** I worked out when I was 6 years old.

    Everything you believe in, has been fed to you by others and you lack the basic brain to question the **** you have been fed.

    You are a sheep Vlad, cutting and pasting the same deluded racist ****.

    Your a credit to our species Vlad, you an example for everyone else......




















    ..not to follow.

    Carry on dreaming :hi:
     


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  8. Vladimir23

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    Quotes from Steward:

    “Wladimir is gonna be the one I don’t think I could train a man to beat the way he is. I’m serious. I’ve never had a fighter – I went from Holyfield and all the guys I’ve worked with, never, Lennox – Wladimir is a very, very committed, very difficult fighter to beat. Because he won’t let you fight him. He makes you fight what he wants you to fight. But the biggest thing which I think people are not looking at is his speed for a big man. Tremendous speed. Foot Speed. He can move in, explode, move out, move back in, explode, and I’ve never seen anyone that could…move in and out and be in perfect balance,”

    "Wladimir has better one-punch knockout capability than Lennox"

    "Wlad has the best footwork, coordination and balance of any fighter I ever worked with. He’s the most accurate, single-punch knockout guy I have ever seen. A guy can be completely fine, not hurt, and Wladimir can put his lights out with one shot."


    "Wladimir’s coordination is better and he is the most powerful natural talent than any other heavyweight I have worked with."


    "In terms of jab, Wladimir is the best and after him I would put Lennox. In terms of boxing arsenal, Wladimir is better than Lennox."
     
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  10. hookfromhell

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    Wladimir has blossomed into a complete fighter under
    Manny Steward. The jab, reach, power, balance, heart.
    Honestly over the past 5prime years Ive been surprised
    by his power especially. But sheer will and determination
    always has the potential to overcome technique. Wlad
    would give a lot of heavies, even some atgs problems,
    but Wlad never faced a KILLER in the ring. To say that
    Wlad would beat any heavyweight from any era is
    foolish and offensive. I mean you can certainly argue
    Mannys statement that Wladimir has a better arsenal
    than Lewis, but prime for prime Lewis would bomb
    Wlad out no question. Whatever Wlad has over Lewis,
    Wlad has no balls or agressive killer instinct. Lewis
    was a great in fighter and would thrash Wlad on the inside.
    Any time Lewis got outclassed technically, even against
    stronger opponents, he resorted to his physicality. Wlad
    is one of my favorite fighters but Im sorry he wouldnt stand
    a chance against Ali or Tyson. Put Mike in front of Wlad.
    Tyson had an iron chin, phenomenal speed, devatating
    power, perfect executon, and arguably the best defense
    the division has ever seen. Mike would slip the jab and
    unload devastating hooks to the body and head.
    Bottom line Wlad has never faced anyone with the
    hunger, technique and or reflexes, will, determination,
    Or chin of Ali or Tyson. I mean theres not a heavy out there
    who could beat Wlad now, but there are previous champions
    who would beat Wlad. A man like Ali, what he achieved in
    and out of the ring, the character that he possessed, his
    will was unbreakable. Not to mention he had incredible
    reflexes. Wlads top 50 easy maybe top 25.
     
  11. ripcity

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    The Brother's Klitchko, Lenox Lewis and Riddick Bowe are the expections to his rule about big men.