sure...haye wins by not doing anything but running his mouth..he has proved **** and hasnt won but 2 fights in 2 years. 1) fraudley who SUCKS and was 40 on top of sucking :happy 2) Ruiz who was 38, inactive and lost 4 out of 6 with 8 losses :happy Haye is a fraud among frauds :deal
Yeah because outside the Wlad fight Haye hasn't had a career :nut. In 3 fights Haye has been up against men that held massive physical advantages over him and spent a lot of time on his bike trying to play a game of hit and don't be hit and now all of a sudden that defines how he fights???? :happy The land of ESB where when you don't like a fighter... make **** up to suit your argument. :hey How about this... We take into account all of the fights Haye has had where he hasn't been fighting someone at minimum of 6ft 6' and 3 stones heavier than himself and judge his ability and style off of those fights as well? Can you do that? Or shall we just continue to believe that Haye has only ever had 3 fights in his carerr because that's what better suits your agenda????
take into account haye was favored in all of them...since when do you have to be the same size to beat up people that suck, who are old, who are BEYOND SLOW? as a heavyweight, he is an over hype piece of crap...especially based on the words that spewed daily from his fat mouth back in 2008 (yes it has been that long) what kind of boxing fan would support such garbage? i guess a hometown one.... maybe thats your idea of "bringing EXCITEMENT to a DEAD heavyweight division" what a load of **** this guy is...congrats for loving him
So Wlad sucks???? the best tactic for beating Wlad or Valuev is to sit in the pocket where you can be smothered at will by 2 very large men that have a track record for smothering opponents and wearing their opponents down using their size and weight in the clinch????? So basically... because he didn't live up to his own hype you refuse to objectively analyse his skill set as a boxer???? Sounds about right... typical ESB logic... "I don't like him because he said he'd show me his ****. He didn't, so he's **** and can't box... everyone knocks him out within a round" :good:hi: How about you take into account that Haye is better than Huck in almost all areas as a boxer and Povetkin just went life and death with Huck and arguably lost? How about rating Hayes punch output against guys like Barrett and Ruiz who are of the same calibre and size of Povetkin rather than Hayes punch output against guys that massively outweighed and outreached him (Basically, judge Haye on the 20 odd other fights he has had other than the 3 fights where he had massive physical advantages to overcome which he wouldn't have against Povetkin)... i then might be able to enter a reasoned debate with you.
i was talking about Hayes ****ing wins in the last 4 years all "4 of them" dumbass....he was shut out by WLAD, you know the first guy he fought that DIDNT SUCK. oh yeah...lets talk about the great ****ing career he had at cruiserweight....all 22 or 23 fights and 2 big ol world title fights he had....WHOOPIE SKIPPY DOO.
His CW campaign does still exists regardless of whether or not you want to acknowledge it and seeing as how a current CW champ has just given Povetkin the fight of his life, overlooking CW's is just ******ed. 2 Big Ol World Title fights as well as stopping a man that would soon win a title after he left the division. Battering Barrett and Ruiz who are probably on the same level as Povetkin and roughly the same size. But no... you just stick to your memories of the 3 defensiive minded performances of his career against guys much bigger than him because that suits your argument. :good
**** off smeg head... One day i might actually see a sensible topic based post from you...or maybe not... you've just gone into my ignore list with Vladamir23, King Khan and Farmboxer... you have some highly esteemed ******s to keep you company in there.. should feel right at home
I think Povekin is a better boxer than haye and a better boxer than alot of people give him credit for. However I would give haye a punchers chance and he is very athletic. but if I had to put my money on it Id put it on Povekin
Not really It is kinda logical to pick povetkin when looking at his skill set. Povetkin is a very good boxer.