How bad was Valuev really?

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  1. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDCgp6JW8Ug[/ame]
     
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  2. Ulver

    Ulver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Still better than Leon Spinks.....
     
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  3. gregor

    gregor Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was really bad IMO. I can't think of any other titleholder getting so many gift decisions in his major fights. Starting from eliminator fight with Donald (though one can make a case for Bidenko being the 1st robbery) and ending at Holyfield.
     
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  4. I am Legion

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    ****ing moron.
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  5. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    don't feed the trolls people
     
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  6. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A lil bit better than Primo Carnera. there is a height/weight you cannot exceed to be able to box.
     
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  7. leaduppercut

    leaduppercut Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Reminds me how fast sugar was on his feet
     
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  8. NeroN

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  9. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    Valuev will always have a special place in my heart for ending the John Ruiz era, even if I should really be thanking the judges
     
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  10. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    :deal I'd go as far saying THE worst
     
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  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Primo Carnera was basically Valuev without a chin. Valuev's biggest asset was his good chin, Carnera went down every time his chin was lightly tapped.
     
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  12. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I liked Valuev

    though i felt he lost some killer instinct near the end of his career

    on his way to the title he threw the right a lot and went for KO's

    in the chagaev fight he held back on his right and would **** the punch but not throw it

    he seemed gun shy in the Holyfield fight and some of his other bouts

    I thought he lost to Ruiz in fight 1, didnt see the whole 2 but thought Ruiz was ahead from what i saw

    I hated the Haye fight horrible fight, couldnt get through the Holyfield fight

    he had lots of controversy with his decisions

    tell me who you thought won these fights ESB posters

    Ruiz 1

    Ruiz 2

    Donald

    Holyfield

    Haye
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Not as bad as advertised.

    For a giant without power, he developed a nice jab and could put together some scoring combos in spite of his slowness. His ring movement considering his level of fleshy encumbrance wasn't too shabby either.

    That said, in a heavyweight era with even halfway decent depth he wouldn't have been able to pick up a title on his size & OK jab alone.
     
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  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Like throwing sugar at a fighter.
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  15. Overhill

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