The issue I have is that the club I go to has had a total of three bouts under it's banner, two of which were the same girl. There is not a huge focus on sparring, only really ever at the end of an hour an a half session when you're really tired. It's pretty damn busy, mostly with people doing it just for fitness. I really like the people, but I'm not too sure that I'll actually get to the point of feeling comfortable enough to compete at the club I'm at, and it seems Earlsfield (being as good a club as it is) is only really looking for people with bouts under their belt.
You don't need top sparring partners or great coaches to compete and win fights. There are other ways to become good or even great. 90% of being a good boxer comes back to the athlete!
I think you probably need either a good coach or good sparring. And if you have one or the other, at some point you'll need the other, just to round things out.
You can teach yourself enough to get by until you have the means to move to a better gym. Lots of champions are self-taught at boxing and have bad habits, but championship heart.
I've met a lot of wankers like that. They're called runaways. Weedy runt with a lot of self talk about his exclusive 'powers'.
Why? This is more of a universal problem, people doing something without really putting much thought into it. That's their attitude towards their day job, or life in general. Dedication to something is rare. The funniest thing I've heard from a 'trainer', is a weedy runt standing on the wayside pretending he's ****ing hard, and being wrong at just about EVERYTHING. Though you know he hasn't a clue about Boxing, he's trying his best to justify his minimum hourly wage as a gym clit. The affiliated ranking system would probably not do Boxing any Justice, we have seen 3 month insta-black belts, 2nd Dans who **** their pants the minute you grab them by the collar, and rating systems in Kungfu. The point is, none of those guys know how to fight! Being stuck in a comfort zone is not conducive to being competitive. But that's just common sense, right? No! At least I can pretend I'm ****ing hard. (tongue in cheek)
I find the biggest trouble with most gyms is the can only teach one style. If the trainer was a tall rangy guy he tries to teach everyone whether they are 6 foot two or five foot five that style of boxing. There is no adjustment for body type . The good ones can give you a boxing style that suits you. This does not answer your question but I thought I might just add to the thread.
I would say lack of choices and the absence of advice to the athelete when first starting. I would say proper coaching is mandatory rather than critical.
Sometimes you can't contol that, I grew up in a town where only 2 gyms were in the area. On the same note, I met some great coaches who the only thing that separated them from where they are now and Freddy Roach status is a committed prize fighter
Im starting to think I need to find a better gym to train in, but lack of choice is a problem for me. I've been to my local ABC but they weren't interested in offering anything other than a "boxing fitness class" (basically a bit of circuit training and smacking a heavy bag about) unless I was willing to compete. I ended up going to a thai boxing gym that runs a boxing session twice a week which was fine initially as a beginner but i feel like i'm not making any progress now as there's no real attempt to teach proper technique and i'm sure i'm picking up bad habits that aren't being corrected. The only other gym option I have is Millbank Gym where Tony Hill and Matty Tew train but they're only really interested in training you for white collar or pro bouts and right now i feel i'm a million miles away from that! I'm not saying I never want to compete, i'm 30 and i'd love to give it a go before everything starts to creak too much. I'd just like to find a gym where I feel like i'm learning something and not just doing a glorified boxercise class!
The problem is most so called boxing coach's are limited to working on fitness thats it ,,thats why the club Ive been at for the past 3 months have never had a champion boxer ,,,also most of these fitness coach's don't get payed so doing a ranking system would just scare them away we have coaching levels thats good enough Most coach's really do think they know what there talking about ,when really they no nothing about why one boxing is better than the other, if they are limited to experience, they will only teach what they know , forced to develop their physiological knowledge will only add fuel to the fire ,,you can't teach a old dog new tricks,,thats why some clubs are better than others The other day the trainer was watching a lad hit the bag & instead of giving him a combination to work on he said (go turbo) ,,could you Imagen the coach in your corner shouting GO TURBO to his boxer ,,,your dad wouldn't even shout that never mind your coach