Me and Grey have, He is a great Guy go back a bit, thats why when He answers I leave Him to it, knows His stuff. I will add now Im here, anyone Fighting, all the Time with Hands up, and Chin downis pscyhcodynamicaly waiting to get Hit, just waiting for it to happen . Plus all the upper Body is already engaged, and you are forgetting the things that move you, Joints. Hands up Chin down, restricts all the muscles from doing something, because they already are, thats all the way through the Body.
Damn... This is truth. Slickness comes when you are totally relaxed, calm, confident and have a rhythm to dance to. In that stage you are just able to see all the punches carefully and somehow "predict" your opponent's next move. It's a beautiful feeling...
Weird as an amateur I was dead relaxed boxed with my hands down didn't get hit. Turned pro, stiff as a bored. Then I went dead relaxed, then in my last fight I really focussed on a relaxed D and I got stopped. I think other things came into play but it just seems a shame as I felt like I was making great strides technically and it was showing in the gym. :-(
It is always a treat to watch Jose Napoles fight. The best welterweight of my lifetime, certainly, and one of the best ever. There are a lot of ways to be slick. Willie Pep was slick, so were ricardo lopez and Mike MacCallum, and their styles were very different. I think that, at the root, it comes down to how seamlessly you meld your offense and defense together, and to how well you control what goes on in the ring, both your actions and the actions of your opponent. To be slick you have to be very thoughtful and analytical, the kind of guy that reads and understands The Prince and The Art Of War. I read once that good fighters are good at checkers; great ones excel at chess. This begins with your approach to the game. i really believe that you need to shadow-box with feeling, really visualize an opponent and his move. You need to do the same on the heavy bag. This is where you not only learn to handle a body up close, but you train your mind to think and anticipate. then, once you start sparring, you have moves and reactions engrained in your head, and you use them and develope them. It takes a long time to start this process and improve on it if you only work at it when you spar. How your trainer teaches plays a big role as well. If he teaches offense and defense as two separate things, it will take time for you to blend them together. Personally, I've always taught the two as part of a whole. this only happened because, the first time I trained a boxer, I felt that I knew much more about punching than defending. So I started there, and saw how much proper punching lends itself to proper defense. (And by that I mean, the ability to avoid punches and counter effectively.) Since then, everything I do is predicated upon the counter. Never the "avoid" without the counter. But you always have to be thinking. What will he do when...That is how you time counter perfectly; you make the guy throw the punch you counter. That is how you defend against punches like you knew they were coming; because you did. it is a constant expenditure of mental energy. That is what makes you slick.
When i was taught how to box i had my hands up, my first few fights i used the same style. Never really felt comfortable though, so for my last 20 fights i keep my hands a lot lower when at boxing range and use my feet/head to avoid punches. My hands only come up when i get pinned in the corner or come under a sustained attack. I try to go back, then spin the guy by pivoting on my front foot whilst throwing a long left hook (minimal power), then he is back on the ropes and i have my boxing range again.
That is always going to be the issue with a relaxed Defence, if you get it wrong by 1% then you are going to take the full impact. If your gloves are up at least they take some of the sting out of the shot. I tend to keep it relaxed only when in 'boxing range', if the other guy closes in, my hands come up.
Jeff, taking the Pads ruins perception of Punching awareness, thats coming your way and the mechanics of what you do. On Pads you are giving the Guy distance, Direction, and Depth. Plus you are not in a position to defend or conscious of the position you are putting yourself in . Your defense mechanics are all wrong, and it crosses over, and ruins your basic concept of what to Do, it F''ks you .