What would you rather have one punch KO power or granite chin

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  1. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Interesting results so far . . . being able to naturally take a shot is not the most important thing in boxing. You can learn to develop you chin and defense to protect you chin easier. You can learn how not to get hit flush, how to roll with punches, how to tuck, how to block and parry punches. You cannot learn KO power . . . you can marginally get more punching power overtime and learn how to place your punches, and create angles to get more KOs but you can never learn how to be a KO artist.

    For me punching power is far more important, the chin is important but it is not the defining attribute that people look for when thinking of great or even good fighters. it is usually way down the list. I was not thinking about Kirkland when I made this poll but you can see his chin is china when he got destroyed by Ishida but even he could overcome that chin be taking the power punches of AA. yes, he got Knocked down but he was in such great shape he got back up and dominated after that. AA threw everything but the kitchen sink at Kirkland but his china chin withstood it all be cause he was in such great shape.

    Also, a lot of fighter have issues with their chins if the come into the fight cold. Lennox got caught cold a couple of times but when he properly warmed up he could withstand some very powerful punchers shots.
     
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  2. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its funny how guys think of boxing as some type of tough man competition and take both the sweetness and science out of the sweet science:D:D
     
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  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Floyd does neck and shoulder work outs to strengthen the shock absorbers, not sure that means he is training for a tough man competition?
     
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  4. Hands of Iron

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  5. turbotime

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    Marion Wilson and Wayne McCollough are some of my favourite 'new age' rock jaws.
     
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  6. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the science of the sweet science:D ( you can work on you punch resistance but you are born a KO puncher)
     
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  7. JASPER

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    Some of my favs on that list . . . but so is this list for KO punchers that I have seen.

    Personally, I think it is a toss up between Chuvalo and MMH for number 1.
     
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  8. turbotime

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    I think Chuvalo is #1. Then Greb, then Hagler.
     
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  9. Hands of Iron

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    Robinson should be on it IMO. He was a slender fighter and had his share of knockdowns, but there's something to be said about 200 FIGHTS without a legitimate KO or stoppage loss as a result of punches.

    With ESB being so race-based, the number of ATG Iron Chinned white boys is amusing. :lol: :deal
     
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  10. Royal-T-Bag

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    much rather have a cheeeen.

    power+no chin= excitiement but a very good chance of losing

    no power+chin= low excitement level but better chance of not losing.


    the choice depends on if you prefer being exciting or winning, personally I'd rather be a winner like Timmy Bradley/Andre Ward than an exciting fighter like Kirkland
     
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  11. Arranmcl

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    Look how Randall Bailey fought a guy with no chin, that there is proof of why Punch Resistance is the most important quality a fighter can have. If Jones had a chin he'd have been able to take more than 2 punches!
     
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  12. Arranmcl

    Arranmcl Arran Full Member

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    Mayweather is feather fisted at 147. Don't kid yourself.
     
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  13. RazorHandz

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    The examples had nothing to do with their chins I just replied to somebody who listed fights where the puncher with bad chin lost. I mentioned examples where the puncher beat the iron chinned guy. Andrade got dropped hard with a chin shot before the KO, I love how you dodged the Hearns/Duran example.

    Basically my point is those guys still lost despite having iron jaws.
     
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  14. apeboy

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    I think both have their strengths and flaws. You get granite chinned warriors like Margo walking through punches at times without skill but you also get KO artists who lack skill and go for the knockout punch all the time - Ponce de Leon.

    If you are a skillful fighter with either attribute you will do well, as long as you don't rely on that single attribute too much.

    Saying that, I voted for granite chin. I personally think most KO artists get "found out" as soon as they face someone who stands up to their power and keeps punching back. Can't think of anything more scary than someone who takes your best shots and doesn't even flinch!
     
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  15. ripcity

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    Great Power/Questionable Chin.

    First of all I'd like to think that I'd be pretty good at not getting hit.
    One thing to consider is my life after boxing. Most brain damage is because of all the punches to the head you take not that time when you got ko'd in the first round.
    I'd like to be undefeated, who wouldn't. However if I had to lose, while embarsing when it happens. It might be better for me in the long run to get stopped early.
     
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