Revisiting a classic: JuanMa vs. Siri (and no, I don't mean Lopez...but Marquez)

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  1. Mamerto

    Mamerto Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know, but he tested negative in the immediate follow-up test (the day after the positive test).
     
  2. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    I thought they found weed in his system.
     
  3. Mamerto

    Mamerto Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nandrolone.
     
  4. why arent u a moderator? you should be running this website.

    very good fight.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Orlando Salido, disqualified for drug use after fighting Robert Guerrero, has tested negative in a follow-up test.

    After the November 4 IBF title bout in Las Vegas against Guerrero, Salido tested positive for the substance nandrolone in his system.

    Salido immediately had a follow up test at LabCorp, a nationally recognized blood lab, and the findings were negative of any steroids.

    "I said I never took steroids or any performance enhancing drugs and the lab tests prove it," states Salido.

    A doctor who wishes to be unnamed until formal proceedings begin, agreed with the star:

    "It is commonly known that nandrolone is produced by the body, especially in periods when the body is placed in stressful activity like dehydration, diet and strenuous exercise. If Salido had taken steroids, his second test done only one day after NSAC findings would have shown it still in his system. Steroids don't go away overnight!"

    Salido now wants his title back, and doesn't rule out a re-match with Guerrero.

    "I won the title, I will keep the title and if Guerrero wants another beating he can call my manager," said Salido. "For the sake of his health and safety, I highly discourage it. Please stay at home. It's much safer than in a ring with a real champion!"
     
  6. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just a little point. Lopez nickname is Juanma. Marquez nick is Dinamita.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :patsch

    Dinamita is Marquez's ring name.

    He was called by the nickname JuanMa by friends and fans alike LONG before Lopez even turned pro...as most everybody named Juan Manuel is nicknamed for short in Latino communities.

    Lopez happened to take the very common nickname and use it as his billed ring name (ie what Buffer or Lennon adds to his real name in the introductions to bring a little flair) and thus probably brought some more attention to his use of it...but if you think he's the first person to ever go by JuanMa..:-(

    Prior to 2005 if you were talking to a bunch of boxing fans about "JuanMa" they'd know EXACTLY who you meant. (Marquez)
     
  8. Diablito

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    I'm pretty sure I remember them touching on that somewhat during the HBO broadcast (the positive results at least). I think what also made the win significant was that if I remember correctly, it came at a time when HBO was sort of pushing Guerrero as the next big thing.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    False positives exist in drug-screening. :deal

    I am a big fan of Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero both inside the ring and out - but there are two guys he never wants any part of a rematch with for fear of getting smacked around again...and they account for the two No Contests on his record.

    His one official loss, he avenged by KO. Well done. You will never see Guerrero publicly demand a shot at redemption against Salido or Yordan, though. He knows it would backfire on him.
     
  10. Serb Can

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    Good fight.

    I like Marquez's punch selection, always seems to throw the right punch for the right moment.

    I like how even in Salido's losses he manages to sneak back into fights and make them close and competitive.
     
  11. Warlando Salido

    Warlando Salido Oh, I'm quite Siri-ous Full Member

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    Márquez...él es un técnico brillante.
     
  12. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Great tactical fight between two Mexican warriors. :good
     
  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :good

    Thanks for bringing up this fight, IB. I like to mention it whenever I can; for Marquez, it was an underrated win against a solid opponent who went on to accomplish much; for Salido, a very impressive display of solid fundamentals and a balanced offense against a future ATG. This is a good fight to learn from. "Mutually flattering" is a great way to put it. And I agree, he has to be Gamboa's best win.

    I'd love to see a Salido-Guerrero rematch, or even a fight with Broner, even if he's favored to lose.
     
  14. kommieforniaglo

    kommieforniaglo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This :deal
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Underrated, high quality fight when Jmm closer to his prime. I really like the Norwood fight. Both greatly underrated and great fight as well, but unfortunately Jmm got robbed in that one too. Highly competitive, back and forth action.