What was the worst robbery?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    There have been some bad decsions in heavyweight title fights? Which one was the worst? Comment here and/ or vote in the poll.
     
  2. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfield-Lewis 1
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    You posted before I listed the options! But if that is your call, then its A-OK by me.

    All five were bad calls, but only one can be the worst.
     
  4. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Although I think most of those fights were wrong decisions, I believe the most flagrantly wrong one, where one guy just plain comfortably defeated the other guy and didn't get thewin, was Lewis-Holyfield I. Frankly, I think it is very plausible this fight was, in fact, a Don King fix.
     
  5. spion

    spion Active Member Full Member

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    I think De La Hoya beat Trinidad

    Holmes beat Spinks the second time

    De La Hoya I feel beat Mosley the second time

    Foreman beat Briggs AND Axel Schultz

    I thought Sturm edged De La Hoya
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    DLH definitely beat Trinidad and had a good argument for beating Mosley. AND Foreman got beat by Savarese.

    But none of these are close to being the WORST ROBBERY. They were all close fights.
     
  7. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    The one that comes to mind for me was Gerrie Coetzee vs Renaldo Snipes in about august 1981. "Mister" Snipes was beaten from pillar to post for ten rounds. I believe Coetzee also knocked Snipes down about two or three times for good measure. But for some inexplicable reason Snipes' hand was raised at the end. Weird.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Really, Lewis-Holyfield I was the classic example. They (Lewis' people) should have sued the stupid woman who screwed that fight up. Lewis dominated him. Harold Johnson-Willie Pastrano has always been called a robbery, but I'm such a fan of both of those guys that I have a hard time working up the outrage about it. Maybe it should have been a draw, but to me that fight was a defensive technician fan's masterpiece. Tyrone Everett-Alfredo Escalera was pretty outrageous, as was Carlos Zarate-Lupe Pintor, Ali-Young and of course, Ali-Norton III.
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Holyfield-Lewis is the most obvious one. However, Louis - Walcott I may have been equally bad, but i don't have all 15 rounds of that one, nevermind in DVD quality. So that makes it hard to judge. Same for Schmeling vs Sharkey II.

    I scored Ali vs Norton III and Young not the way the judges did but they were closer than Holyfield-Lewis I.
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    I am surprised here. Yes, Lewis vs Holyfield 1 was a bad call. Yes one of the judges gave Holyfield the 5th round, and that was Lewis best round

    However, this is not among the worst robberies out there. Ali vs Norton and Johnson vs Johnson was worse.
     
  11. ThePlugInBabies

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    the amazing thing about that 5th round is that the female judge claimed she didn't have a good view of the fight and that lewis back was turned to her for most of the round.

    HBO ran the tape and it infact shows that she had a side on view for much of the round. lewis most dominating round in the whole fight.

    screwjob doesn't do that fight justice.
     
  12. Sonny's jab

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    Lennox Lewis was robbed badly but at least they gave him a DRAW. They didn't say he flat-out lost and took away his title. So, it wasn't the worst robbery.
     
  13. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    In rounds, how did you score Norton-Ali III?


    And i believe that in the contract/rules it said that if there was an injury, the Johnson - Johnson fight would be declared a draw.. i'm not sure on that one though. Do you have a source that Jim won most of the rounds?
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Threre's no such thing as a robbery. The judges are professionals at what they do. I for one trust them.
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Whitaker-Ramirez I.