today's HW athleticism vs past HW athleticism

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  1. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I found this good read i thought you guys would find interesting. The writer makes some valid points that i never considered. I am guilty of some of the things he mentioned in this article (complaining about our fat/out-of-shape HW fighters, etc...). Check the link out. It's a long read, but a lot of it is cool.

    http://www.heavyweightblog.com/126/heavyweight-division-overweight-division
     
  2. FelixTrinidad

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    The author of this article is a ****ing moron.

    Not one person compared today's athletes in terms of 'athleticism' to the 70's.

    everyone is comparing them to the Tyson Lewis era.


    Of course the 70's compare to current is similiar in terms of atheticism.

    But today's HW'S are utter **** compare to the 90's

    Lewis-Tyson-Holyfield etc


    Eddie Chambers might not be 'that' far off from a 70's fat boy

    but he is light years behind Prime Lennox Lewis or Razer Ruddock in terms of being fit.


    This author is ****ing ******ed, he keep using 70's reference instead of the 90's...



    ****ing moron

    he should be flayed
     
  3. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you're right. 90's heavyweights were physical specimens. i wonder how much of it was steroids?
     
  4. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    80s-90s is where it's at, and always will be. :yep
     
  5. Boxing Fanatic

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    hws come in all shapes and sizes. arreola looks like the michelin man but he can fight for 12 rounds. depends on the fighter. author is ******ed though
     
  6. FelixTrinidad

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    The 90's was a ****ing freak era. I'm serious, if you look at the bodies of these Heavies in the 90's fighting at elite level, it's scary.

    Even Tommy Morrison, someone who's not naturally fit, looks like a god damn beast in the Lennox Lewis Fight.


    Something interesting to point out.

    Lennox Lewis and Frank Bruno was constantly tested by British Boards and Commissions, they started testing as early as 1991+.

    Evander Holyfield never had to go through the testings Lewis did.


    Frank Bruno didn't look natural either, but he got multiple test samples in which he pasted.

    I believe that Frank is just a freak, because if you look at him today?

    He looks the same. So obviously it wasn't the roids .


    But I suspect these fighters from the 90's were juicing.


    Vitali was caught twice.
    Evander Holyfield was never caught, but highly suspicious
    Roy Jones Jr was probably on that **** too

    as was James Toney


    I give Mike Tyson a pass, I'm looking at his Prison interviews and tapes and he looks

    EXACTLY the same as when he was fighting. So this guy was just mostly fit and a pure athlete,
     
  7. Cellz831

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    the great american HWs of the 70s and 80s came from the gutta. they werent spoiled fat asses like nowadays
     
  8. Boxing Fanatic

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    u still got guys who r freaks and who r on top. they got the money to fool the tests
     
  9. Hands of Iron

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    Shame that the two biggest fights that could've happened didn't.

    Tyson-Holyfield in 1991 (Desiree Washington and Torn Rib Cartiledge)
    Bowe-Lewis in 1993 (Rock Newman)
     
  10. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i wold say holyfield was definitely juiced up. i never looked at lennox as being juiced, but that's because theere is a misconception that you have to look totally shredded to be on roids. but i wouldnt be surprised if he was at some point. the 90's era across all sports was full of roids
     
  11. Boxing Fanatic

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    right and the testing back then was worst than it is now
     
  12. Hands of Iron

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    What's funny about Holy being juiced up is that he was still a shrimp comparatively. Just ripped.

    Smaller than Cooper and Mercer, outweighed by 30+ lbs by Bowe and Lewis, by 50 lbs by Foreman.
     
  13. FelixTrinidad

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    Lennox Lewis was way too relaxed to ever be on 'roids'

    the only drug he could ever be on is weed.

    in one of my college classes We are doing a full research on Steroid Usage

    and boxing in the 90's is the essay I'm writing so I did a lot of research.


    Guys like Holyfield with his ****ing eye twitch and his sudden movements and jerky tacky rages whenever a reporter brings up certain questions makes him highly suspicious.


    Vitali is another Roid user, he hides it well but if you seen the clips of him slamming his fists into the walls of his training camp after he got

    CAUGHT yet again, it is a sure sign of Roid Rage


    I will not be surprised if Vitali was juicing against Lewis tbh


    Once a cheater, always a cheater
     
  14. Serb Can

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    Heavyweight blows. Seriously. Unless you want to marvel at some chiseled gods beating up on heavy tough men, alright. MW to CW is where it's at.
     
  15. Nosbor

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    Even Frans Botha was on PED's. He got popped for Oxymethalone(Anadrol-50) after his fight with Axel Shultz.

    Claiming LL never took PED's is simply ignorant...