Gsora's Chin is Granite and His Workrate Excellent - How is Haye Supposed to Win?

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  1. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's either a troll or a complete dick. Maybe both. Wouldn't take anything he says seriously.
     
  2. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chisora's had incredible luck thus far in his two biggest fights against Helenius and Vitali and that's somewhat gave him a false sense of his actual ability. He's still an underdog vs Haye but a live underdog. I still see this as a tight fight probably going the distance. 35% Chisora/ 65% Haye is the way I'm seeing it so far.

    The weigh in will be key. Haye is already in close to his 100% peak condition if he's not already there. Chisora looks fat on the other hand.
     
  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    This. :deal

    Entered the thread to make a Ruiz reference, but with Haye having a little more to think about.
     
  4. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You people are delusional if you think Chisora has a chance. He will be in Haye's face throwing punches? After tasting some of the bombs early he is going to be reluctant and will be easily outpointed and if he is not careful he will get starched.
     
  5. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude... 90% of refs would have stopped that fight early with it resulting in a Haye TKO win because Thompson was getting battered from pillar to post. Haye was an 11 fight novice, had only boxed 21 pro rounds and was Naive and gassed out. He learnt from his mistake clearly because he has been the distance 3 times since and had his best round in the 12th in 2 of those
     
  6. Hellion

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    Irrespective of what happened in the first round, and yes I agree that many referees would have stopped it in the first, you and many others (Haye amongst them), like to purvey this utter myth that Thompson was a mere punching bag for almost 5 completed rounds when Haye suddenly got tired and tripped over. The fact is, and yes he was a novice at the time, that he thought he could blow Thompson away in the first and it didn't happen. Aside from one moment after that the bout was fought on fairly even terms with Thompson coming on stronger as each round passed. Haye went down in the end. not simply because he was tired, but because he'd taken a continuous stream of punches over the preceding 3 rounds from Thompson.
     
  7. BrIxToNbOmBa

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    chizora iz a bigga stonga thomzon...haze ****ed...
     
  8. DoubleEdge

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    You going to tell me Haye hits harder than Vitali? Only Wlad comes close to Vitali's power currently. Haye couldn't even knockout Harrison.

    You're the same clown that said haye's punches cause more damage than Vitali's, now that is worthy the :lol:
     
  9. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, make up your mind!

    You answered your own question. Haye 'aint much, but he DOES have serious power. Even granite chins can be cracked.

    I think Chisora is just too slow. Even if he's trying to attack, Haye should be able to do stay away all night, until he lands one lucky shot.
     
  10. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh for **** sake you brain dead **** wrinkle.

    When did i mention Haye? Theres many people currently in the division that hit harder than the post return arm punching vitali. Wlad hits much harder. As does Helenius, price, Boystovand Peter.... Vitali is not a big puncher. he hasn't KO'd anyone with a single punch, he's an accumulation puncher. He couldn't even stop an old, washed up Briggs who Lewis stopped in 5 rounds when he was in his prime.

    As for the bolded bit, i think you've got the wrong person, i've never said Haye hits harder neither. Haye has a different sort of power that will more likely knock you over but Haye isn't a 1 punch KO artist at HW neither, he's similar to Vitali in that he can hurt you with one punch or knock you off balance but he isn't going to knock you out.
     
  11. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Could you please explain the concept of "Lucky Shot"? If you're aiming a punch at a fighter and it lands (especially against someone as easy to hit as Chisora) in what way is it lucky?
     
  12. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looked up in the dictionary and it said please look up Tarver Jones 2.
     
  13. Hellion

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    Reg Gutteridge used to say.... "There's no such thing as a lucky punch, if you throw a punch and the man goes over it's a good punch"
     
  14. TonyH

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    Well, firstly this fight should NOT be taking place, Haye unlicensed (only coming back for payday) and Chisora banned for the SECOND time (remember the ear biting?).

    Yes, Chisora looked OK against Helenius, who is slow enough that pigeons think he's too easy a target. Much the same for VK these days too (age and knees) so Chis could enjoy some 'workrate' against non-moving oppos.

    As several have said, Haye is far from a mug, silky movement, can see shots coming from way off, and Chisora mostly deals in wild roundhouse swipes. Have people forgotten how awful he looked against Fury (no speedster himself)?? Sure Haye got whacked by Thompson, but that was a very long time ago, and Haye isn't playing at it now. Haye should win easily, and yes, he probably intends to spend most of the 12 making Chis miss. If that's not what you want to see, don't moan about it, don't go, and don't buy it on whatever channel it's on.

    PS wonder who they'll find to be ref and judges? Luxemburg has been ejected from EBU, and no BBBofC officials can be there, so look presentable near the stadium on Saturday evening, u might get a little earner?!
     
  15. DoubleEdge

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    You're a joke did you see Briggs face and who then needed to be put in intensive care? And David Price, you clown :lol:. Who has he put down? Tomato cans and cab drivers and you want to say he hits better than vitali who has the second best knockout-to-fight ratio. This is why I can't take you seriously and have no credibility. Let me know what tough opponent david price put on the canvas and maybe I won't call you a brittard no more.

    Btw who mentioned single punch KO's? You did not me so don't try and make up some phantom argument just so you can make a point.

    I'm sure it was you that said hayes punches has more sting than vitalis. Or some guy from london did on here. The amount of si