Khan showed a lot of heart.

Yeah, I'll give him props for his heart

Never gave up

 

He has heart but sadly he's dumping his game-plan to outbox opponents, use movement and speed only to exchange and get dropped. Looks like the fans control him and that's weak mentality in my opinion.

Though after a KO like this, I think it's fair to say he can give quite a few opponents good fights but he's not getting to the heights Pacquiao and Mayweather are at.

 

Heart with little else to back it up is called stupidity.

 

Gee, I thought Mr. Magic was talking about Bute, so I made a few corrections:deal

 

Khan has defiantly one of the biggest hearts in Boxing. He's never got any quit in him despite his short comings. He was practically KO'd by the first knock down. Didn't know where he was and still carried on. That's a warrior to me. Someone who gets back up when their down to win.

You ***s that like to sh*t on him at every opportunity should be ashamed.

 

No, you see, Big Reg is compeletely right and totally unbiased. To see total hear and dedication to the sport, you need to watch Floyd for the 10 months of the year he's off. Amazing.

 

isnt MRMagic one of the pricks who bash on other fighters for losing? just recently chisora, and bute awhile back

yet he makes a sympathy thread for Khan get a grip you daft ****

 

First of all, if my analogy didn't make sense, why did you go along with it anyways to try and prove your point? Also "less often" doesn't equate to "2 months of the year". Secondly, it's an entirely different specimen. We are not talking about business productivity or the bottom line. We are talking about "heart" and dedication, you are citing that as the norm, but have a part-time worker's photo as your avatar. THAT's why you're a joke.

This is where you're failing to see the hyprocrisy. You're right, I brought up Mayweather because you're a fan of his, and yet you're saying this should be the norm, when for 10 months of the year, and for 2-year stretches, Mayweather exhibits NO HEART WHATSOEVER. In fact, he exhibits NOTHING whatsoever because he isn't in the ring. By your logic, would you be OK a figher stepping into the ring one time in his career, winning, and walking away undefeated? Hey, he never made any mistakes, right? Great guy, showed lots of heart. Truth of the matter is, Floyd is so good he's never even had to come close to digging down to the levels that Khan exhibited in that fight, and of course you will, in fits of pure buffoonery try to convince me otherwise.

You have absolutely no shred of objectivity. You lost it the minute you critiqued Khan as only doing what's expected of him when on the same hand supporting a part-time fighter.

That's absolutely what I'm saying. It's about being a good fan of the sport, and recognizing the boxers that do those things, the ones that act like champions in the ring whether they are total dickheads outside the ring or not.

Please show me, where in the last five years, Floyd has fought twice a year. Thanks.

I wasn't even necessarily referring to this fight, as I was for example the Peterson fight, but surely you aren't trying to argue that Khan's backyard is the US, and not the UK? Please tell me whatever you have left for rational reasoning isn't trying to make that point?

Ok, for starters, Mayweather has been a part-time, jailed or quasi-retired fighter for the last FIVE YEARS. It's not like, all of a sudden, at 35, this behavior started. Trying to use the age of 35 as a comparison is completely and totally flawed, because it didn't just start today.

I can, however, show you examples of Mayweather lacking heart outside the ring, by his inactivity levels, retirements, and refusal to fight the best in his division over the past five years.

Honestly I'm done with the banter. You can write another 20-page long diatribe trying to explain why you aren't a total dickhead in this matter and I welcome you to it. It will be summarily replied to with a stock "didn't read" gif. Your bias is horribly apparent as usual.

 

Biting down under heavy artillery barrage. Amir is a warrior.

 

His heart has never been in question for me.
If anything,it's that big it's a ****ing liability to him.

 

Can't question the guys heart, he puts everything in to fighting back and not being stopped. ****ing great heart actually. He's not a loser, he hates to lose...everyone obviously hates to lose, but when in serious trouble he digs ****ing deep. Wrong tactics, but there isn't even a little bit of quit in the guy.

 

Your analogy didn't make sense because it didn't strengthen your argument. Employers are more concerned with talent and production than they are with punctuality.

You're still not making sense. There's no conncetion between applauding a guy for doing what he's expected to do and activity levels.

When did I say anything about how lower activity levels should be the norm? I didn't. How often a fighter fights is completely up to them.

Nobody exhibits anything whatsoever, from a boxing standpoint, when they are not in the ring. You're still not making sense.

Why would I have a problem with that? I don't have a financial stake in any of these fighters. This an individual sport with no set schedule. They can fight as much or as little as they want. None of these fighters have any obligation to fight a specified amount of times within a specified time period.

That depends. If they got knocked out in that fight, then they probably did make some mistakes during that bout. If they suffered a serious brain injury in that fight, then they didn't make a mistake by not fighting again.

So you're no arguing that talent and heart are inversely related? Because Mayweather is a much better fighter than Khan and has never in that much trouble, he automatically doesn't have as much heart as Khan? That's compeletely illogical. The fact of the matter is, Mayweather has gotten in trouble in the ring and has never showed any ounce of quit or any hint of a lack of heart. I can't say Mayweather has more heart, but there's no evidence of the opposite.

Here's my argument. It is expected that fighters fight with heart and give it their all. I do not believe fighters should be applauded for doing what they are supposed to. Khan fought with heart and gave it his all. Khan does not deserve applaud for doing what is expected of him. How is that not an objective argument? That applies to every fighter, and isn't even a criticism of Khan. Mayweather was in trouble against Mosley. He kept fighting hard regardless. Had he been knocked out, I wouldn't be praising him for fighting with heart. Instead, I would be pointing out what I thought he did wrong, and what I thought he would need to do to prevent it from happening again.

That's your opinion. This is where we differ. There's a certain way we expect fighters to act. When they don't act that way, they get skewered. On the opposite end, I don't feel they should get any extra applause unless they go beyond what is expected. People tried to give Mayweather props for simply signing to fight Cotto. I disaggreed. Those are the type of fights that Mayweather is expected to take on. He gets credit from me for performing like he did and winning decisively.

Going stricly by calender years makes no sense. What is the material difference between fighting twice in a calender year and fighting twice in a 12 month period? Obviously there is no material difference. Between May of 2011 and May 2012, Mayweather fought twice; Ditto for the time period between May 2009 and May 2010.

That's one fight. Mayweather fought Gatti in Jersey, which his adopted backyard.

Surely you are smart enough to realize nowhere did I remotely try to make that argument. Arguing that Vegas isn't the backyard of Garcia, who is from Philly, is not even close to the same thing as arguing that Vegas is Khan's backyard. There is a such thing as a neutral site.

Again, Mayweather has fought twice in a 12 month period on two separate occasions since turning 30. Again the only counter argument for this is to say that there is a material difference between fighting twice in a calender year and twice in a 12 month time period. No one with an ounce of common sense, an amoount of which I'm not even sure you possess, would argue otherwise.

Sugar Ray Leonard retired something like 5 times, including once before even turning pro. From the age 30 on, he was even less active than Mayweather. I guess he has no heart. Vitali retired for 4 years and even quit in a fight, no heart for him I guess. Jack Dempsey routinely fought once a year from the time he won a title until he retired. I guess Dempsey has no heart either.

Cotto, Mosley, Baldo. Hoya, Hernandez, and Castillo were all the top ranked fighters in their division when Mayweather fought them. The last 8 guys he's fought were current world champs. 6 out of the last 8 guys he''s fougt were ranked in the top 5 of either Mayweather's division, or the division above him. So let's stop with this nonsense about him not fighting the best.

I hope you don't read this. You only frustrate yourself with the realization of how terrible your argument is. Either that, or you'll be frustrated by your inablility to comprehend what's written. Your only response would be, "oh yeah, well you're a dickhead".

 

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****ing lion heart + speedy combos + suspect chin + low ring IQ = excitement for fight fans

 

I told you guys a long time ago, what ever happens to Khan should always be remembered as real fighter, a warrior, there not many in this day and age.

Poor kid fights for fans, risks is health, yet has it in him to box a 12 round UD but he finds that boring.

The guy is just a striaght up fighter...