Wladimir Klitschko- Since 2004 one of the greatest comeback stories of all time?

It belongs up there with the best comebacks for me. It never ceases to amaze me how disliked he is that people can delude themselves about his career so much.

Case in point. For pure ******ation it's right up there with "He's just bigger than everybody. That's why he wins." atsch Or "No one really tries. That's why he wins." :roll: Or "People are playing basketball and football. Or else he'd be in real trouble." I wonder how many of these people are flat-earthers.

 

yeah all those big time brawls with the 6-20 opponets tyson left over those were huge fights!atsch

the foreman locks in that title shot with that blowed up light heavyweight and gets beat pillar to post before landing that lucky shot

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ahh **** just go turn on great white hype you know you want too

 

this is acceptable

 

After the Brewster loss, many wrote Wlad off. To his credit he changed his game a bit. Wald now throws fewer punches, but greatly improved his pacing, spacing, defense and clinching ability. In a clinch, Wlad can lock up his man as good as anyone in the history of the division. The result has been smooth sailing for him. Wlad’s power is devastating. He does not need to land many power crosses or hooks to 1 ) quickly deter his opponent from advancing, or 2 ) Stop them.

Comebacks to me happen after a layoff. That would be Vitali. Out of the game for our 4 years he came back in his late 30’s with no warm up fights and went directly to a title fight with Sam Peter, who then had the WBC belt and was ranked #2 Ring Magazine. Vitali easily dispatched Peter. I can think of no man who took 4+ years off from the game, and won his title back at age 37+ without warm up fights. This is an amazing accomplishment. Since then he has made 8 title defenses in a row, and has a scheduled 9th defense in September. Vitali is 41 years old. He’s still on top. Many older fighters that have belts do so by barely squeaking by, and seldom do they remain as active as Vitali has.

I would like to see Vitali offer 50/50 contract spilt for Haye and Povetkin. If neither guy wants the match, Vitali may opt to retire.

 

Who has David Haye beaten? Chisora, Ruiz? :? He has a big mouth. Who knows how good he is really.

 

Well Brewster really wasnt that good. Its not hard to stomach the fact that he hasnt faced anyone better than Brewster because it doesnt take much to see that. Wlad has just faced a very poor group of fighters and he still to me hasnt proved hes much better than an excellent outside boxer.

Lennox Lewis was never a great inside fighter, but he proved he fixed that area of his game, because he faced fighters who had the ability to force him outside of his comfort zone and he was able to overcome that. Wlad has not faced that type of opposition and its not because hes such a superior boxer to Lewis. Its simply because of the opposition. Its not his fault, but I believe Wlad fighting even against Lewis opposition would have a lot of L's on his record and not be a dominant champion.

 

-I wouldn't call your opinion a fact. I and I'm sure many others would be hard pressed to argue Brewster over Peter or several of Wlad's recent opponents. In the case of Peter, both are similar fighters that were roughly the same level.

-Lets not pretend Brewster was a level above and did something special to break Wlad down. We've seen the fight, we know Wlad just gassed out when he had Brewster hurt after the knockdown and has since been much more measured and controlled in finishing off his opponents. Brewster's apparenlty unique "pressure and power" wasn't effective until Wlad was already teetering from fatigue, and throwing arm punches off rubber legs.

-Brock, Haye, Sultan, and Chambers are not a poor group of fighters. That is pure hyperbole. Mocking Haye's impressive showing over Chisora is telling. As a Haye critic, I have to admit it was a damn fine showing that demonstrated some incredible speed, technique, and power that we haven't seen from Bewster. In fact, I would conclude Brewster would probably suffer a similar fate as Chisora against Haye.

-If Wlad went on the way he was before Steward, I think Peter, Haye, and even Brock would have beat him. A fighter as flawed and inconsistent as pre-Steward Wlad would never dominate a division for 6 years, I don't care how weak it was.

-Wlad's improvements can be seen with the naked eye, the Brock fight was actually his first great jabbing performance. This isn't because Brock is somehow worse than anybody Wlad faced before, its becaues Wlad was finally throwing lots of jabs to control the distance; accurate ones, purposeful ones with lots of power.

-Its incredibly naive to assume that Wlad is the same fighter he always was, learned nothing from Steward or his inring experience, and for nearly 6 years atop the division has just somehow never met a Brewster level fighter again.

-Lennox Lewis and your analogy is irrelevant.

 

About even money, a fight between Charr and Mormeck, I'd think. :huh

 

Louis, Foreman and Vitali had better comeback stories.

But Wlad's career story has been very interesting. Early loses against weaker opposition, like Dempsey, like Lewis against McCall, like Tyson, and he was then able to come back and dominate for almost 6.5 years, and to be unbeaten for 8 years, one of the most dominant streaks in heavyweight history.

 

And you can name twenty better names who are highlighted that were free, as in unattached to other opponents, not injured, and wanted the fight at the available date set up? :think And how certain would you be? My guess is that you wouldn't be particularly certain. But, just the same, he's taking a voluntary final fight and that's his right because he's fulfilled mandatory responsibilities, is my understanding. :conf

 

:deal..His comeback trouncing of Peter was most impressive to me..there was a Monzonish thing with VK in how unhurried and effective he was.