Why do you dislike the Klitschkos?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by awesome1612, Jul 19, 2012.


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  1. Champion

    Champion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** off you whitey supremacistic imbecilius.
     
    Champion, Jul 19, 2012
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  2. Natural1

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    Also, hardcore fans of boxers are what make this forum fun, and what make boxing passionate, and fun to debate.

    It'd be boring as **** if everybody always took a completely neutral stance when gauging boxers, and fights. . .

    I simply don't see how random posters on the internet who you don't even know, could get under your skin to the point of talking down the actual boxer. . .
     
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  3. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yet you fail to realise that the majority of neitrals will agree with my post,whilst yours displays all the traits that I previously discussed.
    What did Charr do to deserve a shot before Haye?:thinkDying to hear that one.
    I am not a K2 fan,but I certainly don't hate them and I suspect the vast majority feel the same.I can think of several fangirls who are delusional and your "real" account will probably be one of them.
    Haye is the only fighter in the HW division who gets people talking.You know it,but it doesn't suit your agenda.Vitali was the one who said he wanted to finish what Vitali started,so it falls right into the same category if he doesn't fight him.
    Only difference is,us reasonable people won't be losing sleep over it in 9 years.:hi:
     
    PityTheFool, Jul 19, 2012
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  4. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You,your "real" account,Vladimir,(far from) Awesome.
    Will that do?
     
    PityTheFool, Jul 19, 2012
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  5. Master Lewis

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    They are boring, but I don't hate Mayweather, he don't always fight scared against midget. The Pre-sanders Wlad was a beast and was one of my favorite but the Wlad 2.0 is .........:dead

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    Master Lewis, Jul 19, 2012
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  6. Natural1

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    Never said Charr deserved the shot. . . Neither does Haye.

    Lol how did I display any previous traits? Because I disagreed with you in an intelligible fashion, pointing out where, and how I think your comparisons are erroneous? To me, you are displaying characteristics of blind, unjustified dislike.

    Real account? Uh, sure, ok.

    So you named me two posters on here who are fanboy trolls for Klitschkos, give me enough time here, and I'm sure I can point out just as many for other boxers.


    I don't anticipate fights based on who "casual fans" talk about. That's what is wrong with boxing right now, as a matter of fact. Boxers look at "what other boxers bring to the table" in regards to money/popularity, rather than who actually deserves the fight based on skill, and accomplishments.

    Sorry, I just don't think Haye's win over Chisora is enough to put him back in contention for a shot at Vitali, and after seeing his performance, and "desire to win," against Wladimir, I'm not eager to see him fight Vitali. . . Sorry, I'm not a casual fan, and I don't buy into hype.
     
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  7. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No need.You asked,I answered.
    You said;"ehh,not really"
    I'm saying "ehh,yes really" If Chisora deserved a shot at Vitali,why doesn't Haye? Chisora gave Vitali his most competitive fight for years,yet Haye knocked him out(the only man to do so)n so where's your logic?
    Who,then would you say of Vitali's recent opponents,deserves a shot more than Haye? Or are you acknowledging he's been fighting unworthy opponents?

    And for the umpteenth time,I have no dislike whatsoever for the brothers.I like Wlad and was very wrong about him in the past.
    You know when I realised this? In the build up to the Haye fight.
     
    PityTheFool, Jul 19, 2012
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  8. Natural1

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    We disagreed, and then you accused me of exhibiting some kind of "traits"? Why, because I disagreed with you in an intelligible manner? Then accused me of being some kind of "fake account"? Seemed like you were quick to jump the gun, and accuse me of things that I have gave you no reason to do? I was nice, and respectful with you, and you did not return the same treatment to me.

    The way you were talking, it's as if every K-bro fan here is a troll or something? When that certainly doesn't seem like the case at all.

    I never said Chisora deserved a shot either.

    Also, we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes in regards to negotiations. . Vitali said he had made Haye plenty of offers, and Haye says it's not true. .
     
    Natural1, Jul 19, 2012
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  9. Natural1

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    But, this is simply a boxing forum. . . Nobody's opinion is greater than the next man's opinion, as long as they both support their opinions soundly, and intelligibly.
     
    Natural1, Jul 19, 2012
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  10. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't hate them but i do not think as highly of them as the TS so I guess I am a hater. They are very nice gentlemen, and very good fighters who jointly dominate a **** era of Heavyweight boxing and both top 25 -30 ATG. Klitickers are a bunch of ******ed ***gots, who do nothing but hurt K2s rep.
     
    JASPER, Jul 19, 2012
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  11. Natural1

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    I agree. . . I am admittedly a pretty big fan, but I do not rate them any higher than 25 (Wladimir), and 30ish (Vitali) for HW division.

    I do think Wladimir can make his way top 20, maybe settle in around 15 if he fights on for 4-5 more years, and dominates, and takes out all the guys he "should."


    Also, I consider the people who hate on the Klitschkos (at a fanboy level - they put just as much effort into hating them, as their fans do nuthugging them) to be just as ******ed, and worthy of a good flame as those who troll, and nuthugg them.
     
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  12. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :nono:nono
    I have never said all the fans were idiot fangirls,so please retract that.
    I just saw Booth and Boente debate the negotiations on live TV an hour ago.I'd say that gives me a good opportunity to draw my own conclusions.

    It seems like you're a tad sensitive to ongoing debates here,and while I won't apologise because I wasn't disrespectful to you,I would offer you the advice that this can be quite a sensitive subject on ESB and the TS is a notorious bullshitter and proven xenophobe.
    With all due respect,maybe this isn't the subject for you if you prefer measured and reasonable debate(which I do,but I realise it's horses for courses)
     
    PityTheFool, Jul 19, 2012
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  13. gorgse

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    Check on for the "Because they are white" vote.. Sad that there are so many people in this world that judge people by the color of their skin.

    And then he accuses someone else of being racist...:patsch
     
    gorgse, Jul 19, 2012
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  14. Natural1

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    You didn't say all, no, but I definitely detected that you were implying they have "more" troll/nuthugger ******s than most other premier boxers. And I just haven't seen that to be the case, but I haven't been here for more than a day.

    You were a little bit like "well, you don't agree with me, so you're just some kind of Klit nuthugger." I assumed that's what you meant by me "exhibiting" those traits? Even though I did, or said nothing to give that indicatoin, aside from disagree with you, and support it with reasoning.

    I wasn't sensitive about it at all, just didn't know why you were getting personal for no reason.

    It's not a big deal, everybody is going to have their opinions, boxing is probably the most subjective sport in the world. As long as you can support your opinion, and reason it out, which I think you did, and I believe I did as well, one man's opinion is as good as the next.


    I think Vitali did offer Haye the fight, and Haye priced himself out. I have no idea what the exact details of the negotiations were, but I'd say Vitali deserves at least 60/40 of all revenue, and pretty much gets most say-so regarding ring size, venue, etc. He is the champion, undefeated for what? A decade now? And Haye just got tooled by Wladimir.
     
    Natural1, Jul 19, 2012
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  15. TheMagicanBoy

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    I don't dislike the Kbros

    I dislike Vladimir23.

    I like Jisi as a poster and I like Chittown whatever his name is.

    I sometimes like Champion, hence I started praising Wlad more and more.


    Posters make people like or dislike a boxer, it's a sad thing but it is the truth.
     
    TheMagicanBoy, Jul 19, 2012
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