Better p4p fighter: Gonzalez or Khan?

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  1. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Hm. Might have to take you off of my ignore list. I must have mistaken you for a troll at some point. Sorry about that.
     
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  2. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gonzalez is a better FIGHTER, no question. Khan is a much better athlete, no question. I think Khan's overall physical gifts really took away from himself as a fighter, instead of becoming a highly skilled and well rounded fighter he always just got by on having more God-given ability than his opponents, whereas Chocolatito has had to work more towards the craft and skill of the sport.


    But yea, p4p Gonzalez is a clearly superior boxer.
     
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  3. sadlittleboy

    sadlittleboy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gonzalez is pushing my top 10, Khan is possibly pushing my top 20
     
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  4. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Agree. Gonzalez reminds me a little bit of JMM. He wasn't born with all the athletic gifts, but he developed parts of his game that guys like Khan and even guys like Pacquiao didn't have a need to develop and didn't.
    (not comparing Khan to Pacquiao directly)


    Ouch. Khan not on your top 20 even? I still think he will be in the top 5 or ten mix when Martinez, Pac and May retire. By that time, I mean.
     
    MrOliverKlozoff, Dec 11, 2011
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  5. sadlittleboy

    sadlittleboy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not at the moment, he has potential but guys like Moreno, Gonzalez, Joyi, Wonjongkam and the such get over looked far too often. He's proven he's not even the 3rd best guy in his own division...
     
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  6. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    I hear what you're saying about our little guys getting overlooked there, and maybe I'd be surprised if I worked out my own list down to 20, which I haven't, but I don't think he's proven third best in his division. I think the Peterson fight could've gone either way, but without the second deduction, I think he won, and with Bradley not fighting him in the first place, and imo, having the better 140 resume, I think it's still arguable who the best 140 man is.
     
    MrOliverKlozoff, Dec 11, 2011
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  7. sadlittleboy

    sadlittleboy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The better resume?
    For me Bradley's resume is far better-
    Vazquez, Witter, Holt, Peterson*, Alexander*
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    Kotelnik, Maidana, Malignaggi, Judah

    *-denotes taking an 0

    Although matches shouldn't be decided by triangle logic rankings can be.
     
    sadlittleboy, Dec 11, 2011
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  8. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Well, a lot of us thought Kotelnik took Alexander's 0...And I don't think much of Alexander or Witter anyway. It's subjective, of course. They're both very good resumes for the amount of time they were fighting at the world level at 140.
     
    MrOliverKlozoff, Dec 11, 2011
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  9. kopejh

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    what?? I don't even know who the fuk you are. corny ******
     
    kopejh, Dec 30, 2011
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  10. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Aaaaaaaaand back on. I don't care if you know me. Just about not wasting my time, when I'm talking boxing. Feel free to die in a fire though, should the opportunity arise. :good
     
    MrOliverKlozoff, Dec 30, 2011
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  11. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Last 2 posts there are comedy gold.
    I dont know enough about gonzalez to comment but theres some good well balanced posts about khan here.
     
    Hattons Hook, Dec 30, 2011
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  12. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    :rofl There's a good chance I was wrong.
     
    MrOliverKlozoff, Jul 19, 2012
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  13. ALTimegreat

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    Khan.
     
    ALTimegreat, Jul 20, 2012
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Still? :blood You really are a speed queen, huh?

    He brings literally nothing else to the table at which Gonzalez doesn't excel more.
     
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