The knockdown in the 12th round

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  1. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In the last round of the fight, Israel landed big shots and send Rafael at the corner wobbling and holding the ropes.
    The ref, called it a KD and, evidently Rafa's manager says it is not.

    So ? Was it a legit knock down or not ?

    I would have scored the last round 10 - 8 for Vasquez anyway. He was dominating and landing bombs thoughout the last round.
     
    jyuza, Mar 4, 2008
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  2. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    yes it was....if the ref wouldn't of stepped in, i believe about 2 more shots and marquez would've been out....


    the bull**** call was that ****en low blow....
     
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  3. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can't use the ropes to help keep yourself up & thats what Marquez did there. Or if it wasn't for the ropes, he woulda went down. Good call by the ref & sour grapes by Marquez, but you can't blame him. He (both guys) fought their hearts out.
     
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  4. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And part of your body that Touches the Mat - other than your feet - is a Knock Down.

    Or

    If the Ropes keep you from being Knocked Down - that is also a Knock Down.

    Marquez grabbed on the Ropes and Bounced off the Ropes to keep from being Knocked Down - so:

    YES - IT WAS A LEGAL KNOCK DOWN!
     
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  5. Square Pants

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    Yep, I cant stand it when a fight is determined because of a questionable point deduction. The fight was way too great to be decided with a call like that. Amazing.
     
    Square Pants, Mar 4, 2008
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  6. superchile

    superchile Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it was a legit knocdown
     
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  7. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, that was a legal knockdown as he had both hands on rope keeping him up. Great fight.
     
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  8. ChampionsForever

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  9. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    Vazquez was the stronger man and deserved to win, I thought. Marquez was seconds away from being stopped, sort of like Allan Green against Edison Miranda. He was getting tagged right and left.

    And Marquez did go low on several occasions, so I was OK with a point deduction. In any case, it didn't determine the outcome as to who was the better man on that night. It was Vazquez's fight.
     
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  10. bronx

    bronx Boxing Junkie banned

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    The ref did a great job and the low blow call was good as well as the KD in the 12th and I am Marquez fan, congratulations to Vazquez great performance.
     
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  11. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    I thought there were a handful of low blows while watching live. I'll have to look at it again. Still, Vazquez proved over the final two bouts that he's just a little too much for Marquez. Thirty more seconds, and I don't think Marquez would have made it to the final bell.
     
    Lampley, Mar 4, 2008
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  12. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The ref called that situation perfectly. I love Marquez but I don't know what he is mad about. If the ref hadn't called it a knockdown he was about to get killed!
     
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  13. Shane_Erich

    Shane_Erich Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Legit knockdown, the ropes held him up. The questionable call was the low blow. I thought it was on the beltline, but there had been at least 4 low before that.
     
    Shane_Erich, Mar 4, 2008
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  14. randeris

    randeris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then he should have detucted then - you can't make accumilation calls like that at random times.
     
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  15. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had 113-112 in favor of Vasquez at the end of the fight. Very close fight.

    A fourth fight would be awesome again but it would be too much for them too handle, they need at least a complete year to recover from their trilogy.
     
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