Prime Mike Tyson vs. Jess Willard...Does Tyson take Willard out in 1?

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  1. McGrain

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    Yes, I think the referee said something to them prior to kick off. That's always been my assumption, anyway. How else to explain it? My point is, in these circumstances, Willard wouldn't have been allowed the freedom Jameson was for a while, to do the things that took away Tyson's equilibrium. If that's the right word. And the right spelling.
     
  2. The Mongoose

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    This is a valid point I confess myself to overlooking, Dempsey being a taller and longer armed fighter than Tyson. Perhaps Mike will have to work harder to find the money punch?
     
  3. Legend X

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    Well, I don't think Jess Willard would fight like Mike Jameson either.

    I do think Tyson is quite unpredictable in how successful he would be against a variety of fighters, in his prime. Against big lumps especially.

    Willard held against Dempsey, but they broke quickly and broke extremely cleanly.

    It's really impossible to make comparisons because Tyson was a completely different fighter to Dempsey, in style and in physical dimensions. The way Dempsey started against Willard, and the way Willard responded, don't help any it figuring out how Willard-Tyson would look.

    I would consider quite an early KO or TKO win for Tyson as a likely result. Not necessarily as quick or quicker than Dempsey did it though.
    But a 1st round KO is certainly possible.
     
  4. McGrain

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    I think that Dempsey and Tyson are alike enough for a direct comparison to be made but I also think that there are more differences than are commonly allowed.
     
  5. Bummy Davis

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    Smith had a more muscular body but I do not think he was better, Green was garbage, Tucker may have been better but he fought on even terms with 5'11 Orlin Norris and KO'd in 2 by Herbie Hide at about the same age that Willard was KO'd by Dempsey ....Willard may have been inactive but he was amazing the way he kept getting up vs Dempsey with broken facial bones and ribs......He was heroic and courageous and tough
     
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  7. SBleeder

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    No, no, and no. If anything, it's the other way around.

    As far as skill and punching ability goes, Dempsey trumps Tyson.
    As for size, they're roughly equal if you factor height, weight, and reach in.

    As for Willard-Tyson, I think Tyson wins a 15 round decision, but Jess would finish on his feet.
     
  8. MadcapMaxie

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    Sigh. No Dempsey is not in the same ballpark when it comes to those things Dempsey trumps Tyson in no department bar maybe footwork.

    The fact you say they're of equal size shows either you're a troll or a delusional Dempsey fan, Tyson weighed 200 pounds of solid muscle when he was 15, Dempsey weighed in for the Willard fight at 180, Tyson comes into fights at 210-220 pounds. This is a signifcant amount of weight particularly considering it's entirely muscle. Go to a local boxing gym and ask to spar with someone who's around 180 and then a heavyweight report back that the smaller guy hit harder.