Cruiserweights moving up to the Heavies... is it still what us boxing fans want?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigBone, Mar 8, 2008.


  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s not like every fight is Klitschko-Ibragimov or Byrd-Williamson… and those ex-Soviet heavies are pretty skilled boxers… It’s not the division’s skill level, but the level of excitement is terrible North of 200 lbs…

    On the other hand, if a division has elite fighters like Haye, Maccarinelli, Cunningham, Mormeck, Bell, Adamek, Arslan, Wlodarczyk, and talents like Hernandez, Alexeev, Huck, Banks, Williams and some other good AND EXCITING names, it’s a damn good division not to let anyone leave it behind.

    The money is of course up there at the heavies, the history is a factor too, but for us, the FANS, is it still what we want? The CW champ(s) moving up to the heavies? For example Haye moving up to the heavies is THAT good for the excitement of the heavies that it worth to leave the CW division a lot more boring without him? Or CWs should all move up to save the heavies?



    What do you think guys? It's a topic to discuss actual and theoretical subjects as well...
     
  2. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cruiserweight will remain a good division after Haye moves up. If he wins tonight there will be a scramble for the vacated belts, but i have a feeling we will have a New undisputed champion at cruiser long before we have one at heavy...
     
  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, we can have a new undisputed CW champ as soon as 2AM GMT. :D

    Of course CW is very strong now and if the talents will shine on the elite level it will be even better. The problem is that some fighters fight in the UK, others in the US, Europe, etc... it's really hard to unify if the titles are in the hand of 3 different boxing community...
     
  4. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    250+ pound guys are simply not build to perform good quality boxing in general. The HW division seems doomed forever. I don't wanna be pessimistic, but that's just what it looks like to me. Most of the HW greats of yesteryear would probably be CW's today, so to see the kind of boxing that the HW's used to provide, the CW class is the place to be. And to stay, Haye.
     
  5. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exiled Yank on the main page had a good idea. Rename the cruiserweight division Heavyweight and give it a 210lbs limit, then call the next division up 'Superheavy'.
     
  6. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Cut out the jab and grab bull**** and the heavyweight division fixes itself. The smaller men simply cannot compete against these giants who do nothing but fight safety first behind a jab and grab routine.

    Lewis and Holyfield are a perfect dichotomy to what went wrong over the last 15 years. Holyfield was rough sure, but he didn't put us to sleep by fighting a jab n' grab the way Lewis did. Lewis set a precedent, he and Steward, for very boring heavyweights. Extremely big men fighting with very small hearts. Holyfield was your most recenty example of a good small man, ex cruiser, who came to fight, not hug.

    We need to get back to those days. Povetkin can bring that as well as maybe Haye, and Sam Peter, Ibragimov, Chagaev. But in order for that to happen Waldo and other big men who molest smaller men inside those ropes need to face the proper penalties. Then the playing field will even out and enjoyable fights will return.
     
  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Superheavy sounds too glamorous, I vote for 'fatties'.
     
  8. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    During which fights have you seen Lewis "jab n grab" ?

    Also, for every boring Lewis fight you can also fight a boring Holyfield fight.
     
  9. ABugsLife

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    This may sound weird initially, but bare with me. I see a trend occurring in boxing over the next year, not that different from a trend that occurred in the NBA. In the NBA, for the most part, gone are the days of the 7 foot, 285 pound center. There just aren't a lot of them anymore. The new center is 6 foot 10, 265 pounds, lean and mean. I think the days of the 255 pound heavyweight are over, with a few exceptions, and that is a good thing for boxing. In fact, I would go as far as to say the best thing for boxing might be to get rid of the cruiserweight division all together. Most of these guys can weigh 210-215 and still fight at the highest level. Look at Ibragimov in his last fight. He weighed in at 219. I think adding several currently elite cruisers to the heavyweight division would be great for the sport. The only concern would be health risks, I know, but I don't think those will be too severe as hard as these cruisers hit anyway.
     
  10. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some cruisers just can't make the HW division. It's too much for them. Just ask Naz Hamed. :smoke
     
  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    bump.
     
  12. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    Now we have the days of the 7 foot+ Forwards in the NBA... :D