Could Joe Calzaghe still be undefeated if he fought Roy Jones Jr's opponents?

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  1. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I can score a fight. All Hopkins did was hold, clinch, grab, wrestle, and fake low blows. He threw one punch at a time then came in with his head and tried to clinch. Same **** he did against Dawson. Can't score rounds for a guy when that is all he does. Sorry.

    Hopkins was scared to fight Calzaghe straight up without his spoiling tactics. Hopkins ruined what should have been a great fight. It was awful and painful to watch.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    he was 42, course he was spoiling. at that age, theres not a lot else you can do.

    fucuking stupidly ignorant of anyone to crticise a 40something for not having the lungs they had when they were 25.
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    same loss for you though. Return to square 1.
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    my thoughts on Hop-Cal are that Cal scraped the fight through workrate over 12 rounds, though if it had been a shorter fight, Bhop would have had it.

    As for deserving the decision, Calzahe didnt deserve the decision, no. He;d been made to look amateur by a 40something, and had to rely on the old man gassing in order to win - goodness how humiliating was that. But Bernard deserved the decision EVEN LESS than Cal for even showing up at 40something, for spoiling and faking... so Cal gets the decision by default.

    Bernard gets the morale victory for sure, taking on and nearly beating a postprime champ when he should have been long time retired.

    I know I say this a lot but I wish Zaghes hadnt taken this fight and the Jones fight. He was made to look so crap and cowardly and he ruined his legacy with these big paydays that exposed him.
     
  5. Prof. I C Chins

    Prof. I C Chins Expert in Mandibology Full Member

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    vie did hopkins have zie lungs v tarver and zie ghost kelly pavlik :think
     
  6. HerolGee

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  7. The Akbar One

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    Hopkins had a Thyroid issue that wasn't being treated during the time of the Wright and Calzaghe fights. Why he looked gassed in both. He didn't have that issue for the Tarver, Ornealas, Pascal, or Dawson fights. That being said, he gave Calzaghe far too much respect. He was walking through Calzaghe's shots late, and if he could do it while gassed, he should have been on Calzaghe's arse early in the fight. It was clear that Calzaghe couldn't really take his power. Not only did he knock him down. He buckled or wobbled Calzaghe three or four other times during the fight, and didn't seem to realize it. I thought Hopkins edged it when I first watched it. I didn't think it was a robbery until I video analyzed the fight though, and saw that Calzaghe wasn't landing hardly a thing. How boxing goes though.
     
  8. Katie K

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    Did anybody give Hopkins a round after round 4? If you did, you need a check up from the neck up. Easiest fight ever to score.

    Hopkins 10-8
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    Calzaghe 10-9
    Calzaghe 10-9
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    Calzaghe 10-9

    Calzaghe 115-112 Hopkins

    Whether Calzaghe was slapping or not, between rounds 5-12 Hopkins simply did not do enough to win the rounds.
     
  9. Prof. I C Chins

    Prof. I C Chins Expert in Mandibology Full Member

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    zhere is no attempt to be funny, just an irrefutable scientific facht zat has been thrashed inzide your zloppy anus.
     
  10. FelixTrinidad

    FelixTrinidad Boxing Addict banned

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    How would Calzaghe have done against the Toney that Roy fought?
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Well Felix, Calzaghe didnt have Roy's accuracy, reactions, or speed of hand so he wouldnt be able to win in the same manner that Roy did. He cant jump in and out fast enough. He'd have to rely on his chin and recovery ability to try and soak up Toney's pressure. It would be a bloody war for him to a level he's never been tested to, but he'd have a chance at SMW for sure, but not the better chance.



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  12. Prof. I C Chins

    Prof. I C Chins Expert in Mandibology Full Member

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    He vud have done exactly zie zame as Dave Tiberi did and beat zie living daylights out of zie overated bum.
     
  13. Kittikasem

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    Wake me up when this guy says anything that's actually relevant to how boxing is scored.
     
  14. Kittikasem

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    :lol: :happy:happy:happy
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I did like that post, thxs for not patenting it lol.