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chavez fight a draw? / possible 12th round ko conspiracy.

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I just watched the fight again and i saw it much closer the second time around. I saw rounds that were obvious chavez rounds and some that could have gone either way. it seemed that chavez jr's punches were much harder. one could argue that martinez was running and his punches werent doing as much damage. if u give chavez jr a 10-7 round in round 12 and cherry pick a few of the earlier rounds for chavez we could have had a draw. a draw would have ensured a rematch.

either way i came into the fight thinkin martinez would dominate and was very impressed by the amazing comeback by chavez jr. however watch that 12th round ko again in slow motion, conspiracy theorists will say it was an act, that martinez was paid off to take the fall. if u watch it again u will see it appears that martinez slipped, none of those punches were landing when martinez went down!!

think about it, chavez sr meets up w martinez in a dark pub, he tells martinez, look we both know u can beat up my son, we will give u an extra mil if u take a dive in the 12th make my son look good and we will give u a rematch where both of u will be guaranteed huge money, think about it who else are u going to fight? mayweather? he wont fight u! pacquiao? he's washed up! canelo? he might beat u!! take the dive and u will be guaranteed 1 maybe 2 more big pay days and u can retire in argentina a rich man. remember its my sons name that is attracting the big $$$
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puncherschance said: ↑

I just watched the fight again and i saw it much closer the second time around. I saw rounds that were obvious chavez rounds and some that could have gone either way. it seemed that chavez jr's punches were much harder. one could argue that martinez was running and his punches werent doing as much damage. if u give chavez jr a 10-7 round in round 12 and cherry pick a few of the earlier rounds for chavez we could have had a draw. a draw would have ensured a rematch.

either way i came into the fight thinkin martinez would dominate and was very impressed by the amazing comeback by chavez jr. however watch that 12th round ko again in slow motion, conspiracy theorists will say it was an act, that martinez was paid off to take the fall. if u watch it again u will see it appears that martinez slipped, none of those punches were landing when martinez went down!!

think about it, chavez sr meets up w martinez in a dark pub, he tells martinez, look we both know u can beat up my son, we will give u an extra mil if u take a dive in the 12th make my son look good and we will give u a rematch where both of u will be guaranteed huge money, think about it who else are u going to fight? mayweather? he wont fight u! pacquiao? he's washed up! canelo? he might beat u!! take the dive and u will be guaranteed 1 maybe 2 more big pay days and u can retire in argentina a rich man. remember its my sons name that is attracting the big $$$
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Have you lost your damn mind!! Lost 11-1, easy ass fight because JR didnt swing back because hes a scared big girl

buckdacious, Sep 17, 2012

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its a conspiracy theory dont be mad bro! u guys act like boxing has always been good decisions. tell me u didnt think for one second before the decision was read, OH BOY HERE WE GO AGAIN LETS SEE WHAT THE JUDGES SAY.

LOL the judges could have easily been paid off in favor of the younger fighter with the bigger name. #justsayin
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What I don't get is why you think that should have been the case in Martinez vs. Chavez and why you think that's ok.

The judges got this one right.

I'm still laughing HARD at all the people that came on here trying to say Chavez should have won based on his 12th round knockdown... You are just stretching that same fanboyism a bit further.

Bro, if there was a conspiracy, Chavez would have gotten the decision. :hi:

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Chavez got his ****ing ass kicked, end of story. :deal

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puncherschance said: ↑

I just watched the fight again and i saw it much closer the second time around. I saw rounds that were obvious chavez rounds and some that could have gone either way. it seemed that chavez jr's punches were much harder. one could argue that martinez was running and his punches werent doing as much damage. if u give chavez jr a 10-7 round in round 12 and cherry pick a few of the earlier rounds for chavez we could have had a draw. a draw would have ensured a rematch.

either way i came into the fight thinkin martinez would dominate and was very impressed by the amazing comeback by chavez jr. however watch that 12th round ko again in slow motion, conspiracy theorists will say it was an act, that martinez was paid off to take the fall. if u watch it again u will see it appears that martinez slipped, none of those punches were landing when martinez went down!!

think about it, chavez sr meets up w martinez in a dark pub, he tells martinez, look we both know u can beat up my son, we will give u an extra mil if u take a dive in the 12th make my son look good and we will give u a rematch where both of u will be guaranteed huge money, think about it who else are u going to fight? mayweather? he wont fight u! pacquiao? he's washed up! canelo? he might beat u!! take the dive and u will be guaranteed 1 maybe 2 more big pay days and u can retire in argentina a rich man. remember its my sons name that is attracting the big $$$
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You need to reconsider breathing.

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i stopped reading after the line " I saw rounds that were obvious chavez rounds"

There is only one obvious chavez round and that was the last.
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Indeed. Not really sure how anyone could've given more than a couple of rounds to Chavez (and that's being generous).

klimting, Sep 17, 2012

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LOL at Serg fans making excuses to why he got dropped twice, and saved by the final bell.

I do admit that knockdown was the best business decision and break that could of came his way, but please believe he didn't get hit by them bombs on purpose after running and pot shotting from round 1 on.atsch

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:rofl AND STILL UNDISPUTED MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION!!! AND NEWWW!!! WBC MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!!! :dance:nutcase:cheers

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I never thought *******s and Klittards could be outdone but the people in here who are all over JR's nuts are making a strong argument....

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I think you need to go to Sluggers medicine shop. You need to realise that JCC Jr is just not very good. Sergio on the other hand, just son'd your hero.

He the CHAMP now. If a rematch happens it will be on Sergio's conditions. Tbh I give Chavez Jr a punchers chance in the rematch. Sergio will up his game even more in a rematch. Winning 11 rounds and then fighting back strong from a KD. What else do you want?

Prince., Sep 17, 2012

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1. Freddy wak¨
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i stopped reading after the line " I saw rounds that were obvious chavez rounds"

There is only one obvious chavez round and that was the last.
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This.

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lets get this straight, i called it that martinez was gonna whoop chavez. i thought chavez lost hands down but i have seen enough crazy bad decisions to see where the judges could have messed it up. i also see where the conspiracy could be in the judges being paid off to further jrs career but he didnt do enough to win the fight so a draw would have left an even worse mark on boxing.. chavez showed a lot of balls in the 12th round thats for sure and admit it had there not been that amazing 12th round that fight would have been a complete disappointment, now a rematch will bring even more hype and closer odds.

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