WHY HOPKINS WILL BEAT CALZAGHE.(from a Brit)

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  1. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe will end the old man's career. No question.
     
  2. randeris

    randeris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The reason i said that i was american was to prove my point, its easy to say. You might be british, you might not.

    Calzaghe is superior to Hopkins at this stage.. He is faster, more intelligent, adjusts to situatons perfectly, hits harder (a bit), amazing workrate and stamina.. This is not because i am a Kessler fan, cause i admit that fighters like Dawson would be favourite to beat him, and Bute/Taylor would give him probs so dont give me that.. If it was Prime for Prime it would be close though.
     
  3. Toopretty

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  4. randeris

    randeris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i guess you are right now?
     
  5. db2431

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    Nothing in the forseeable future will beat Calzaghe vs Lacy for that Honor, BIG FIGHT and 90% of Americans here had Lacy winning the fight easily as a prediction :rofl :rofl
     
  6. randeris

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    oh man many will start hiding after the euro bum beats your superstar.
     
  7. Amsterdam

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    Calzaghe will be the 2nd best opponent that he's fought, even at Calzaghe's 36, next to Jones and Hopkins is doing it at age 43?

    Calzaghe's not as good as Jones, but he's up there in that level and Hopkins had all he could handle from Jermain Taylor level guys recently.:D
     
  8. Dorfmeister

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    He is and don't get touchy. Calzaghe is not proven to have more ring intelligence that Hopkins, he fights back more than adjust perfectly and he doesn't seem to hit harder by any means... But he has the much faster hands and fluid punch skills and that should play a big part in this one.
     
  9. Toopretty

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    Show me Calzaghe doing anything different but getting inside and wailing away after he gets hurt, gets the other guy hurt etc etc. That is not ring intelligence that is strong will and confidence. I give him that much. Good chin too. But intelligent.....he wouldnt get tagged and dropped as much as he does.
     
  10. randeris

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    I have to disagree. Calzaghe outsmarted Mikkel Kessler which is surdenly not an easy task, considering how much ring generalship he has.. Granted, the ring intelligence might be close, but Calzaghe does adjust.. He had problems with Kessler early, only to adjust and then picked up a whole other style. He started out the agressor, then started countering and getting on the defensive. (not saying he was defensive in that manner, just more than usual). What has Hopkins proved that shows bigger punching? Calzaghe stunned Kessler and laid down Lacy..
     
  11. randeris

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    The general feeling seems to be that Calzaghe would beat Taylor (am i not right?) Hopkins (win or lose) had big trouble with Taylor only from his activity level and hand speed which is no where near Calzaghes.
     
  12. Dorfmeister

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    That is insane and preposterous! And you keep on doing it time and time again... What's the point? Calzaghe is an excellent fighter but he doesn't have the handspeed to land lead left hooks and counter right hands like Jones did on Hopkins in 93... And let's get this right once and for all, Calzaghe doesn't really bang with flurries like Roy, Ray Leonard and Shane so there's no use in comparing Calzaghe with them... Hopkins, Calzaghe and Taylor are all at the same level, I'm afraid. Just that Calzaghe is the only undefeated fighter of the three maybe because he never fought Taylor or Pavlik or Jones.
     
  13. brown_bomber

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    :rofl this ugly thing has better teeth then hopkins:hey
     
  14. Dorfmeister

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    Disagree all the time, that is only healthy and good from you. Calzaghe took over Kessler in rounds six and seven with boxing and you can say he adjusted well. But he really beat Kessler when he outfought him in the eight, took a lot of wild shots and came bravely back for more, hurt Kessler to the body ( last 30 seconds) and should have not been interrupted by Mike Ortega when he was about to take him out. Hopkins has a very sharp right hand and he really stuns you ( see Trinidad round 12, Taylor I - 10th round last 30 seconds, Tarver round 5, there are many more examples) - that's the real big shot he has really... Calzaghe really hurt Lacy with a left uppercut in the 12th and that was not a push ( Hopkins also pushed Tito down after connecting with the counter right hook) Calzaghe hurt Lacy bad in the seventh, ninth ( I believe) and eleventh on the corners but it was more of a magnificient boxing display... Short punches inside, side-stepping, off-setting Lacy all the time, ducking well right hooks, not giving him punching room or enough leverage, beautiful footwoork, it was a complete shutout in my view.
     
  15. Dorfmeister

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    That's exactly how he fights but he has some smooth moves, specially with footwork and he can protect his head well against wild swinging attacks ( against Sheika in the beggining of the 5th, protected himself well and picked his counter-punches better off the ropes, I was very impressed), then he has flashy hands and well-studied combinations of six, seven punches... He can even put a barrage of 40, 50 shots against Mitchell... But yes, it's all heart, sheer willpower, self-confidence, even Mitchell said so... He is not very intelligent and I don't know he will be able to deal with those games Hopkins plays with everyone... Calzaghe misses, Hopkins smiles with those teeth of his, Calzaghe gets even more enraged and out of control, no... Calzaghe can't play mind games or pose to this guy or it will be a boxing lesson. He does get tagged a lot, specially with right hands coming from his left side, David Starie, Richie Woodhall, Byron Mitchell, Kabary Salem, Sakio Bika, and we all know Hopkins is on a much higher level than all these guys Calzaghe has fought until this point ( exception for Kessler possibly).