Morales b sample comes back positive and negative

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Kind of like how you **** on Donaire for wanting Rigo to establish himself yet ride Ward and say Bute didn't deserve a fight :-(


    He's already made a thread outing Morales and saying it was a **** move.:good
     
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    to put it simply, from what i understand...

    CIR testing detects the presence of the drug however miniscule.

    T/E ratio detects the level of the drug and if it does not exceed the allowable limit, it is deemed negative.

    i could be wrong, so am i??
     
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  4. ajackman1

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    CIR testing only tests for Testosterone.
     
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  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    USADA said they test all samples for bxing matches, CIR-wise.
     
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  6. Cormega

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    No ****ing way did they get a positive for clenbuterol from a T/E ratio test. USADA allows up to a 4:1 ratio and there's no way that stuff would make someone's T/E ratio go that high. Also, a T/E test is just that... It only measures the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone to see if someone's testosterone levels are abnormally high, which is a possible sign that they've taken an anabolic steroid. Morales didn't have an unacceptable T/E ratio. He tested positive for this substance in particular.
     
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    Yes, your right. I know they do they do it for all boxing matches. The purpose of CIR is to test to see if the fighter used testosterone.
     
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  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    That didn't stop you from being a hypocrite prior :hi:
     
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  10. turbotime

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    Other irregularities will show, obviously.
     
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  11. EL MOYS

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    Yea that was the belife, but damm i still want to see the fight a bit more presure on Terrible , and a biggger opertunity for Garcia , In some soret of way i guess,
     
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    Not with CIR testing they won't. CIR tests examine the atomic makeup of testosterone in the urine to determine if it's natural or synthetic. The first step in the process is isolating testosterone and its metabolites from the urine sample so you're only looking at them.
     
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  14. turbotime

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    and they keep all the other results once everything is isolated. You think they don't record everything and just Test?
     
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