If Paulie had moved up earlier in his career and sat on his punches

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  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Would he have had better accomplishments if not shorter career?

    Looking at Cano and Senchenkos faces. Obviously Paulies lost a step but ive always respected his skills, if not felt he wasnt very entertaining given his lack of power and being pretty one dimensional living off snapping and hooking his left. But I like Paulie sitting on his punches. Hes damaging fighters now.

    I feel that the weights done him well. Wouldve liked to see a younger Paulie with the foot work and lightening jab but also sitting down on his punches more.
     
  2. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Eh, I think him sitting on his punches would definitely have shortened his career and maybe not enabled him to have such success for as long as he's had. He beat guys like Juan Diaz and Ndou because of it and I believe him sitting down and being more stationary in those fights would've been grueling.
     
  3. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    Yea he has less movement now and HAS to sit on his punches more
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Remember when he fought Cotto. There were times where he stood is ground and got the better of the exchanges and pushed Cotto back. Obviously Cotto ****ed him up in the process but maybe if he had a more balanced offense early on hed have had a more rewarding career instead of being a fringe paper belt holder and challenger.
     
  5. thawk888

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    True, but to me that was because, at that point in their careers, Paulie simply had better fundamental craft than Cotto(e). Plus Miguel was absolutely killing himself to make 140 at that point. I believe it was his last fight at the weight. So it wasn't surprising to me that Paulie could do that.

    I think Paulie's movement was great. Maybe if he did move up in weight sooner while he was younger, he would've gained some power, but we'll just never know. I personally think his body would've reacted well, but don't know to what degree.
     
  6. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He had too many problems with his hands that's way his style is like this. He broke his hands many times. Cano has glass skin.
     
  7. dwighttsharpe

    dwighttsharpe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was unimpressive, against a slug.
     
  8. Bo Bo Olson

    Bo Bo Olson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Moving up in weight always means giving up the reach advantage of being in the proper weight to height.
    An inch of reach is worth the world, between evenly matched fighters.

    Going up in weight earlier means lack of discipline...eating and boozing too much. Having to lose more than 10 pounds means coming into a fight with marbled flesh in the fat stays, the muscle is burnt up to make the weight.
     
  9. SJS19

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    He's evolved as he's gone up in weight, maybe out of neccesity.

    He has to plant his feet occasionally, to get these bigger guys respect. His legs have slowed and Paulie knows he may need a second longer for his own positioning. The jab is still there, it always will be but he needed more behind it to give himself a chance at discouraging bigger guys from going bombs away.

    The weight has re-juventated him somewhat. He couldn't even move at 140, but the seven pound difference seems to of put a little bit of life back into his legs. Also as he fills out, you can see just how athletic he really is.

    Body punching (which he hardly did last night) is crucial for him now aswell. It's an added dimension, which will serve him very well going forward.
     
  10. SJS19

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    And going to 147 earlier in his career would of been tough. Once Mayweather, Cotto and to a certain extent Hatton had left the 140lb division, Malignaggi made solid money winning a title and beating up the rest. If he'd moved north, he'd of run into much better fighters. Though him vs Collazo or Judah would of been intresting, and Brooklyn would of loved it.
     
  11. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    What he has succeeded in accomplishing by not sitting down on his punches far outweighs what he could have achieved if he sat down on his punches and found himself on the sidelines for years at a time.
     
  12. elninochino

    elninochino Cutman Full Member

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    He would have had more KOs, comparable to Lucas and Maidana
     
  13. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  14. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    yeah he's legs have slowed down some. I think him relying more on his speed would have down him good yesterday and throwing more combos to the head and body.

    But you right. Those punches of his rip into your face
     
  15. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hes in a predicament now, not a s quick as he used to be and doest have the power to fend guys off

    Any fighter who is able to cope with the speed and boxing of Malanaggi has Paulie at a severe disadvantage