A Look At Rigondeaux's Resume And What He's Done To Be Considered So Great

Your own logic justifies a fight anywhere at any time so long as the two fighters at one point belonged to the same weight class. So I guess Pacquiao-Viloria would be an excellent fight when they get done with their respective Marquezes.

 

The odds weren't that way just because of Donaire and it's absurd to act like they'd be that wide on that basis alone. Moreno was initially going to be Donaire's follow-up to Montiel, not a guy fighting above his best weight.

 

But Donaire was at 115 just 1 year earlier, eager to fight any champ there willing to put up his belt. Narvaez took it at 118 so his belt would not be at stake. And that's after Moreno passed on an offer from Top Rank to fight Donaire.

 

I dont care what excuses be made Rigo vs Donaire is a great fight

 

Good for Narvaez. Still doesn't make it a quality defense at all for Donaire.

And there are multiple sides to the Moreno story. The primary sources for Moreno being the one to turn it down are Arum and the manager Moreno was breaking away from at the time, neither of whom is exactly credible. One can just as easily say that Donaire had his own contract problems with Top Rank right at the moment it looked like the fight was going to be made.

 

Well then, you better not be giving Abner Mares much credit should he defeat Moreno. Please be consistent.

 

If Moreno clearly looks as out of place in the ring against Mares as Narvaez was, I certainly won't. I've already made the argument in another thread that Mares won't necessarily become the next best in the division on the basis of his catchweight win over Morel and Moreno if the latter immediately moves back down.

 

You remember Donaire never even won a belt at 115, was interim only. Do you think this fight woulda gone different at 115? At least Donaire proved he was better than any of the "real" champs at 115. And who was there at 118 to fight him instead of Narvaez? If Moreno was interested, he probably would not have signed with GBP.

 

Narvaez would have looked out of place at 115 vs Donaire, and he was the champ there. Moreno won't look out of place with Mares, who still hasn't fought at 122 himself.

 

I'm not a fan of giving guys credit for projected victories. He probably would have won but it would have been a helluva lot more meaningful than bringing Narvaez up a division when Donaire himself had essentially outgrown it.

And Moreno signing with Golden Boy should be immaterial here since it occurred at a moment when it looked like both companies would be working together again, a reconciliation reached after Donaire himself had signed with GB.

 

You're not saying who Donaire should have fought instead.

And my understanding is: being a free agent, Moreno was offered a TR contract to get the Donaire fight. If so, him signing with GBP is very much material. It's cool if he got a better deal, but nothing Donaire could do about it

 

My understanding is that there was a unification planned for May, but Donaire and his wife were unhappy with that fight (preferring Molitor or Vazquez Jr) and unhappy with his pay, so they signed with Golden Boy. If Donaire was that keen to move up and Moreno's promotional affiliation was somehow an issue, despite the fact that Top Rank and Golden Boy were playing nice during that period, he should have just moved up at that point for Arce, Rigondeaux, or basically any true super bantam.

 

Arce gave up his 122 wbo belt instead of fighting Donaire. Rigo was even more unproven then (before Ramos!), not sure how thats a better fight than proven champ who fought in Donaire's divisions for years

 

Arce vacated after the Narvaez fight took place, and Arum had been talking up Donaire-Rigondeaux prior to the contract dispute.