James Toney: ATG chin or ATG defense?

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  1. carrotlad

    carrotlad Member Full Member

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    James Toney, started at middleweight and ate his way to heavyweight.

    In 86 fights he has never been KO'd.

    He's only been knocked down a few times.

    What do YOU think about Toney; how has he survived his career without ever being KO'd ?
     
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  2. difO

    difO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dat chin and dem reactions
     
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  3. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both man. Hes among the best that ever lived. Look at his body of work. Then to add hes competing with heavyweights. Get outta here man. Hes an all time great
     
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  4. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Former 5 feet 9 heavy schoolin natural big men. James is so damn underated
     
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  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    He's got to have both. For however crude he is, Sam Peter hits like a ******* and him landing flush power punches on a fat, faded middleweight without incapacitating him is ridiculous. When you see the older Toney getting tagged like that you realise the D couldn't have been all.
     
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  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Both... he's shot as hell now, but he kept his atg chin at least.
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    Is that Lucia Rijker next to Manny BE?
     
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  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    He's punch drunk today so.... Obviously his chin is best asset. IDK about ATG though.
     
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  8. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both, no question. The man fought no where near his natural weight class for a large part of his career and still displayed great skills and chin. Imagine if Hopkins got fat and went up to Heavyweight, would he be able to do what James has done? I doubt it.

    The only thing with Toney is you are left wondering what might have been if he had stayed in shape throughout his career.
     
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  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Chin is better than his Defense.

    Got tagged a lot vs Jones, Jirov, Griffen, Tiberi, Johnson, McCallum, etc. but was hardly ever stunned in any fight.
     
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  10. Earl-hickey

    Earl-hickey Boxing Junkie banned

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    having no brain obviously increases punch resistance
     
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  11. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both
     
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  12. ELECTRIC GURU

    ELECTRIC GURU Active Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  13. Boxalot

    Boxalot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can't stand him at all, but he has both.
     
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  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    auch :lol:
    But when was he ever knocked down ? I know Jones almost got him to hit the canvas.
     
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  15. El Greeno

    El Greeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Amir Khan.
     
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