The Klitschko Bros Have Devalued The Heavyweight Title - Lennox Lewis

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  1. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    brittard, nobody gives a **** about hatton , calzhaghe or martinez if they not fighting american,mexican or american based fighter and you fail to understand ,nobody gives a **** about british fighters in US. HBO didn't want no haye vs chisora, haye vs valuev or price vs audley. Anytime either Klit is fighting in US , it's always on HBO.
     
  2. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    he's a racist ******.
     
  3. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe he is a racist all together stupid **** :think
     
  4. Nay_Sayer

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    Lol.

    Butthurt Klittards can't win the debate so they resort to ad hominem attacks. How typical and pathetic....
     
  5. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Disagree - the division would have been terrible for the last 10 years without the brothers there.
     
  6. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    It wasn't Wlad's performance against Ibragimov that did that. You are living in a fantasy world. HBO aired went on to air Wlad's stoppages over Rahman and Thompson after that fight with Iggy.

    HBO simply doesn't want to run to Germany to produce their fights which are usually against non-americans that nobody knows about. This is because the top contenders in the world aren't American. They don't feel that American fans will have any interest in watching a non-American heavyweight defend his title in Germany against non-American challengers who have had zero air time on US television. It's simple as that.

    Now... if Klitschko was American, OR if he had some top contenders who were well known Americans, it would be a different story. Wlad has had way too many impressive performances in his life for HBO to turn away from him based on one fight in which his opponent fought completely negative and refused to make a fight of it. Then... look what happened when they decided to pick up Wlad vs Haye... Haye did the same thing. It is performances from scared challengers like Iggy and Haye that have a bad impact on Championship fights.

    If you look at any era in Heavyweight history, you will notice one HUGE difference. Most of the top 10 used to be comprised of fighters from the United States. After Wlad ran through Byrd, Brock, Austin, Brewster, Thompson, and Rahman which were all aired on HBO... that pretty muched crushed the thought of any interesting matchups between Wlad and an American.

    Until we have a serious American contender who can compete with the great fighters from around the world, or there is another contender who can capture the imagination of fights fans in HBO's eyes... then we are going to be stuck just where we are. Which makes no sense... considering some of the other fights that are aired on HBO.

    It's just when the Champ is named Klitschko... and the top ten fighters... for example we will just used Boxrec's top ten right now....

    Klitschko
    Klitschko
    Adamek
    Pulev
    Haye
    Povetkin
    Fury
    Solis
    Helenius
    Thompson

    .... that doesn't bode well for the American market. This has nothing to do with talent, or Wlad's fighting style. This has to do with the fact that none of these guys outside of the Klitschkos and Adamek have been groomed on American television. Also, it doesn't help that Wlad has already beat Haye and Thompson and Vitali has beat Adamek. All fights that were aired on HBO, by the way.
     
  7. Boom1989

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    Mike Tyson could fight my grandma and it would be on HBO ppv.
     
  8. Porgeous Porge

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    great post
     
  9. timeout

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    Stay in Canada and play poker u glass chin disgrace.
     
  10. Porgeous Porge

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    :good
     
  11. Larryboys

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    Well, he was lineal champion, but for alot of his first reign he held the WBC title but was completely overshadowed by Holyfield with the WBA and IBF belts, until he finally unified them. If he's going to moan about the Klitschkos cheapening the title by not fighting allowing 2 guys to hold the belts, he should recall he allowed the WBA and IBF belts to go to other fighters and never tried to get them back.
     
  12. derrick

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    The only reason did that is because his title fights were easy fights. Lets face it WLad has been fighting tomato cans for years. Wlad is a paper Champion.
     
  13. JAB5239

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    Klitschko nuthuggers always sound like sore losers when they talk about Lewis.

    Lennox is right though. There can only be one world champion. Everyone else is a paper titlist. What devalues the championship is both call themselves champions yet will never fight. Boxing isn't a tag team, only one can be champion and that's Wlad.
     
  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    There is only one world Champion. His name is Wladimir Klitschko. Vitali is a belt holder much like the other guys were just belt holders after Lewis beat Holyfield. It's really nothing different. Did Lewis ever try to fight Wlad and get the WBO title off of him? Wlad was his #1 Challenger by Ring Mag for over 2 years and held the WBO title as well. I guess Lewis devalued the division just the same. Especially considering the fact that he also gave up 2 other titles to avoid the #1 contender.... so then we had 4 different guys with Championship titles while Lewis was Champ.
     
  15. JAB5239

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    Its different because they both say they are the world champions and will never fight. It isn't about the paper title or who they see as mandatory. The title is devalued by both making a claim knowing it will never be settled in the ring. Vits needs to man up and just say Wlad is the true and only world champion as the rest of us already know.