Naseem Hamed V Manny Pacquiao

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  1. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    Welterweight Pac might have chance
     
  2. theboy_racer

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    A heck of a lot and at a very young age aswell, had an brilliant career and was retired by 27 with 1 defeat on pts to an Prime ATG when he wasn't at his best, left enough of an impression that he will never be forgotten and although criminally underrated, mainly by Americans who hate him, most sensible people will know he was something special.

    Where was Pac at 21 years old? getting stopped by Singsurat :lol: someone NAZ would have killed as a teenager, Hamed was already well on his way to being a mega star in the UK at 21 and winning the World Title in his first fight at Feather, a reign that lasted 6 years

    Pac is lucky he didn't face Hamed in the mid to late nineties as he'd have 3 KO losses on his record instead of 2

    He lost an 8-4 fight to a Prime ATG, MAB fought a great fight, NAZ was never hurt, never wobbled, never ever in danger of being stopped (this applies to his whole career)

    Never stopped by nobodies, never beaten at his best, one loss to an Prime ATG on pts.


    PAC is overrated, thats what he is, great fighter no doubt but overrated, never actually beaten JMM, got the better of MAB who was on his way down, lost the first fight to EM who had seen better days (worse loss than Hamed's only defeat as MAB was peak when he beat NAZ), TAINTED catchweight wins, and the allegations of PED use always hanging over him.


    Sure it is, he lost to people who NAZ would ko in 2-3 rds at any stage of his career.


    Hamed had already lost the motivation a few fights before he fought MAB, he wanted to go and live the good life with his millions, eat what he wanted, enjoy life with his family after 20 years in the Sport and with bad hands (due to his ATG power)

    Pac could not knock Hamed out, Hamed would not allow him and he isn't good enough, it's that simple.
     
  3. MetalLicker

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  4. KidDynamite

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    you are the dumbest mofo on this forum

    Hamed has a glass jaw after never being KOed when Pac has been KTFOed twice
     
  5. kristo

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    hamed is a clown... pac man will eat him alive.
     
  6. The13thRound

    The13thRound Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Every pac fight you can see it's not that hard to catch him I am not sure any chin in history apart from the ATG chin of Wayne McCullough stands up to a hamed left :nono not at super bantam pacman goes to :zzz at featherweight either way but i strongly favour a hamed ko.
     
  7. bernie4366

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    Styles make fights. Pac is the better fighter but anyone who mixes it up with Hamed, and Pac would do that, is liable to get their head knocked into the 8th row. Say what you will about Hamed, that little ****er had BOMBS in his gloves. Wow, could he ever crack!
     
  8. bernie4366

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    Naz was visibly wobbled twice, and Pac's early losses don't mean ****, the guy was starving himself like a concentration camp victim. Hamed would have a good puncher's chance, that's all. Yes, he was special, but Pac is at the very very highest ATG level.
     
  9. The13thRound

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    Styles make fights right completely different fight than barreras tactics and I just think hamed would connect his best shots and pacs chin at that time wouldn't stand up to it not at 122 but naz had to move up he's only 5 foot 3, at featherweight I say 50/50 either pac decision or hamed ko.
     
  10. 1_man_army

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    The point isnt that Nazs chin is shaky it is that his chin is always out there and hittable and Pacquiao does well against guys like that. Pacquiao also has the handspeed to get off first and put Naz on the backfoot thus taking away a lot of Naz's power.

    Its also a matter of levels, say what you want about Manny nowadays but he mixed it with the big boys at the lower weights something that Naz only tried once.

    Naz may have been flashy, entertaining and had a lot of power but that doesnt put him in this calibre of fighter as he just didnt have the overall technique to mix it with the Pacquiaos, Barreras, Morales' & Marquez's. He was always just too reliant on his power.

    I also don't buy all this 'Prime Naz' or 'Ingle Gym Naz' bs that his fans say like he was old and on a steep decline - the decline in Naz's performances was due to him upping his level of competition and nothing more.

    All he has is a puncher's chance in this one but nothing more.
     
  11. PIPO23

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    Hamed has a punchers chance. But something about that Kevin Kelly fight.Remember Kevin Kelly cried in agony against Bobby Pacquiao. I do think Naz has a punchers chance.But if he doesn't get it.He might get pretty messed up worse than the Barrera fight. I'd say it's 50/50.

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  12. igor_otsky

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    Man, how many manny pac vs hamed fantapussy fight do we have here in ESB?

    Hamed:

    pro-His leaping hook and uppercut would be the key victory over pac. his footwork and body movements would just evade pacquiao's one-two punch and frustrate pacquiao more to commit, while hamed takes his chances to pot shot and deliver his bombs.

    con-his chin would be tested and might be KOed in the process. his balance is way off, and we could see multiple KDs.


    Pacquiao:

    pro- Roach-trained Pacquiao, with his energizer battery in his balls that could relentlessly assault hamed, with his in-and-out movement and good footwork would make Hamed miss his target, and make hamed on the defensive with his hands up in his face, which is rarely seen on hamed. Hamed would just evade pac's punches by slipping through it, but 3 out of 6 power punch combos would land against hamed. that would be the main problem of hamed on ALL the rounds the two will have.

    con-his chin and body would make it hard for him to handle a hamed blow. a well placed one-shot punch by hamed would be "good night pacquiao".


    Verdict: toss up fight, either Pac TKO8 or Hamed KO4. No one will ever see the final bell ring.

    **** this would be a very entertaining fight in the UK.
     
  13. zfc

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    Dumb stupid pricks like you ruin this forum.

    I bet you have never even seen Naz fight.
     
  14. theboy_racer

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    This is where i disagree

    Pac is great but overrated now and in history

    Btw if those losses don't mean ****, imo Pac losing to EM is worse than NAZ losing to a peak MAB

    Neither Pac or Naz were at their best in those fights but they both lose clear decisions, MAB was more peak than Morales.

    Btw when was he wobbled, never seen his legs ever wobbled, seen him put down when off balance thats it and each time bounced right up on strong legs.
     
  15. theboy_racer

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    Disagree, Pac isnt a better boxer than Naz, especially at the lower weights, how long did it take Pac to develop a right hand?

    Naz had bombs in both hands, more powerful than Pacs left