Was Victor Ortiz beating Ande Berthoe one of the best wins of the decade so far?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Arcane, Nov 9, 2012.


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  1. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    By decade I mean from 2010 onwards, It has surely got to be up there I mean I don't rate Berto that highly but when you consider the circumstances leading up to the fight ie that Ortiz was coming into it having previously scraped a draw with Lamont Peterson and was forced into quitting against Marcos Maidana before that. Ortiz fighting his first fight at 147lb went 12 rounds with a physically bigger steroid riddled monster who was pumped full with a deadly concoction of PED's yet Ortiz still came out on top. It's just a shame his glass mind cracked against Mayweather :-(
     
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  2. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Well part of your post is nonsense.

    Ortiz was actually bigger in the ring than Berto,even though it was Ortiz was having his first fight at 147.

    It was however,MASSIVELY entertaining,and a great win for Ortiz
     
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  3. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    It is who beat who who beat who who beat who who beat hoe in boxing.

    Berto never beat who, who beat who, who beat hoe.

    But by the same logic - Maidana's is the best win of the decade.
     
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  4. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    It was Ortiz who was moving up :deal 140lb fighter coming up to fight a natrual 147lb fighter.
     
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  5. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Its irrelevant.

    In the ring,on the night,Ortiz was the bigger fighter.

    He weighs in the 160s on fight night.

    Berto usually weighs 155-158
     
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  6. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a good win, but really now....
     
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  7. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    That doesn't tell the whole story though. Just because on fight night, a guy comes into the ring a certain size does not necessarily mean his power will carry up into that division. Arcane definitely is correct that Ortiz deserves credit for taking his first fight @ 147 against one of the top guys in the division and putting a pasting on him from the opening bell.
     
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  8. Jai C

    Jai C Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Bradley beating Pacquiao was!
     
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  9. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    You mean 'beating'
     
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  10. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    Ortiz did well...but Berto should have finished him in the 6th

    Berto UD II
     
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  11. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    err it was a good dometic dust up between 2 B level fighters. Nothing more.
     
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  12. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I got Salido Vs. Lopez as best win since the start of 2010.
    (Followed by the rematch)
     
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  13. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    how many on here saw this as Oscar throwing Ortiz to the wolves after 2 or 3 fights ago said he was the next big thing

    He was sending Ortiz up in weight vs an undefeated champion coming off an early KO to me and others on ESB it was him being cashed out

    I think Oscar was even at a different fight that night ringside somewhere else
     
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  14. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Many picked ortiz to win, Including me, had ortiz by Points, where as many had ortiz by KO, it wasn't a shock. For Bookmakers maybe, because they gave some great odds (£2.50 return for every £1).

    Garcia vs Khan - has to be up there, above berto ortiz
     
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  15. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    It was entertaining, but really now, it was BERTO.
     
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