VID: Erislandy Lara & Vanes almost go at it at weigh in!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Tomato Can, Nov 9, 2012.


  1. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vanes will KO him with a straight right.
     
  2. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's mathematically possible since he's had success against southpaws and KO'd an average(at best) one not too long ago... but highly doubtful.

    The facts:

    1) A beyond shot Ouma hurt him badly. Watch Vanes' expression after the decision was read. Priceless...

    2) Greene landed his southpaw jab and straight left at will.

    3) Lara is considerably better than these two.

    The weigh-in basically sealed it for me. Lara looked like he's supremely confident and conditioned while Vanes looked gaunt and nervous.
     
  3. TheRat

    TheRat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lara got this unless vanes make it an ugly fight.
     
  4. Jai C

    Jai C Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No thanks. I don't bet. We will see.
     
  5. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Picking Vanes is foolish. Foolish.
     
  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    The fact that Ouma was featherfisted saved Vanes' chin about 10 times in that fight.

    Vanes got a lot of hype on here a few years ago, and I was in on it. After the Ouma fight, I lost interest in him. Unless he's improved an awful lot in many ways, Lara will handle him with relative easy.
     
  7. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thinking about dropping 50 on a parlay

    Vanes
    Mares

    Pays over 6-1
     
  8. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is Mares the underdog ?
     
  9. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He hugged and rubbed his way to an ugly draw?! What the **** are you talking about? Sure, Carlos used some quick, tactical clinching in that fight, but it sure wasnt the Kirkland fight. Carlos boxed great that night. Used angles, coming in and out, working the body and head...all off a two year layoff. You are gonna use a bad camp excuse for Lara against a guy who hadnt fought in two years?
    According to Compubox, Molina out landed Lara 142 to 103. Guess what? Compubox doesnt count clinches as punches landed. Carlos out landed that Cuban "legend" in 8 out of the ten rounds. No wonder Lara's people wanted no part of a rematch. When they demanded a rematch with Paul Williams, I liked how Williams promoter said "Give Molina a rematch first, then maybe we'll talk". That was some truth right there.
    Best part is, compare there records since they fought each other. Who has been facing the better competition? Thats right. Its pretty clear who the better man is. You're boy is trying to snake around Molina and pretend he doesnt exist so he can snag a paper title, all the while knowing he IS NOT the best fighter in the division, or even the best fighter on his own record :deal
     
  10. ZabKlitschko

    ZabKlitschko Member Full Member

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    Vanes is a counter puncher, he'll break Lara down and win on points.
     
  11. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had the opportunity to speak with Freddy Hernandez and he said Lara is weak in the body and he will lose when he faces a solid body puncher. I am in no way a fan of either fighter but I think Vanes may have a chance though not a very big one to pull off an upset.
     
  12. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good fight. Lara UD
     
  13. inmydojo

    inmydojo Member Full Member

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    God I love pick em' fights
    I got Lara SD. Wouldnt at all be surprised if Vanes gets the SD though.
     
  14. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This should be a good fight and I lean towards Lara by decision.

    Why do people keep bringing up the Ouma fight? Who beats Ouma convincingly? Hell GGG was bouncing shots off of Ouma's friggin skull for like ten rounds and Ouma wouldn't go down.

    I would bet good hard-earned money than Ouma's chin is way better than Lara's chin.
     
  15. Son of Gaul

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    It should be obvious why people bring up the Ouma fight. He and Lara are both southpaws. Ouma was war weary and clearly past it yet he almost knocked Vanes out and still should have gotten the decision IMO.

    Even if you disregard this fight, he also struggled with Greene(another southpaw).

    I just can't see a scenario where Vanes can win legitimately and I don't see enough incentive for a robbery. Sure he's got height and the overhand right but he fights wide open and you just can't do that against someone like Lara...unless you have KO power(Martirosyan doesn't).