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Then that's absolutely fine.

My problem is when people believe there is a neccessity to eat foods that align with somebody's subjective list of 'clean' foods and don't believe they can have that bit of a pizza, ice cream or whatever or else it will instantly kill their gains.

 

Yeah its probably the only thing I researched before I came out its a light study load so plenty of time.

Its hard for me to say because of uni I have a really fragmented training regime at several gyms back home. Due to this I think my progress has been limited as by the time they got used to me being back in the gym I'd be off.

From my gym there are alot of older guys at similar experience levels to me, I am the youngest of the guys competing at 20. It seems to be the trend generally that people get into it later in life when they've stopped playing rugby/cricket etc. rather than young. You see very few juniors if any training and if they are not training seriously usually. Obviously with the older boys they are a bit more dedicated training wise but typically more brawlers than boxers. Thats just from my experience though obviously.

Also two amateur boxing organisations and a lot less shows but they have mixed Pro and AM shows which is cool and you end up with great crowds for the AM fights. I had over 500 for my first fight over here.

 

I see that once in a while when I browse the bodybuilding.com forums, but it seems like people like that get clowned and IIFYM is the big thing now. That makes sense to me when it comes to body composition, since I guess caloric intake/macros are all that really matter, but does that apply to training for boxing as well? Did you eat the same when you boxed compared to bodybuilding now?

I'm curious if there's any scientific evidence connecting the types of food you eat with athletic performance/stamina. I feel like my endurance has gotten worse the past couple of weeks (thought it was just in my head until my coach noticed it too). The only factors I can think of that have changed are: I ate more burgers, french fries, and fried chicken in the past 3 weeks than I normally would in a span of 3 months, and I haven't done roadwork/sprints for the past 2 weeks. I'm guessing the decrease in roadwork/sprints is the main (possibly only) issue, but 2 weeks seems like too short of a time to make that big of a difference. :huh

 

Not a fan of IIFYM it completly ignores the need of micro's and such. BUT for weight gain/loss purposes it just shows only important factor is calories in< calories out

 

It doesn't at all. "IIFYM" was simply a meme that was used to respond to people asking ******ed questions like "Will milk destroy my gains"? It was just a meme "If it fits your macros - eat that ****". Nobody with any understanding of nutrition believes that you should ignore micros, although it seems like (as with everything) an extremist cult has formed.

IIFYM assumes some sort of intelligence essentially, it does not mean "Eat what you want as long as you hit your macros."

The concept of 'IIFYM' is nothing new, it's just a new acronym/meme.

When I trained for boxing I had to worry about multiple training bouts per day sometimes, so nutrient timing was more of an issue, but nothing majorly different to how I go about things now.

 

:good
important to acknowledge too that dieting shouldn't feel like 'penance', and that having the occasional excursion isnt a bad thing

 

I hate the term "dieting" or when people say "I'm going on a diet" it's ****ing stupid. Your diet is simply what you eat over a period of time. Apparently in this age a diet is what you do to lose weight. atsch

Change the way you eat and stick to it, whether that's pure "healthy" food or whatever you want but carefully measured. It's a change of lifestyle not "dieting" for a month then going back to eating stupid amounts of **** daily.

Rant over.

 

yes i know that, but for people who havent made that lifestyle change the word 'diet' signifies the start of that change
i'm assuming someone reading these posts isnt there yet

 

Awesome 600lb squat!

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I like this for a longevity type of program. You suggested it to me on this earlier thread. What is your reasoning for your thoughts on GVT? I think for strength it is a poor choice, but for hypertrophy it is excellent if used appropriately(meaning not for extended periods of time).

 

I haven't seen much of GVT, so don't really have any strong opinions on it. Going from the name I'd imagine it's extremely high volume (go me :yep) so as you say, not going to be very good for strength.

 

It's basically ten sets of 1 exercise followed by a few other exercises of 3x10, for the first phase anyway.

Just finished at the gym and I'm now sat in Burger King.

 

Yeah, I have only read one person state that it is NOT the best hypertrophy programs they have ever done. Most people make very good gains on it.

 

I see. I pretty much never deviate from a certain set of foods, but I'm very micronutrient aware so that's not a worry for me. But TBH in the case of EFAs, most of the population don't get enough. People won't notice a difference if they are EFA deficient as they will be asymptomatic so perhaps that's why.

 

Thanks mate. I don't think I'll post here too often, pretty busy with my post-grad stuff and haven't been following boxing much recently. I actually have Anglo to thank for making me realize that I was procrastinating on here, talking nonsense with an absolute fool instead of spending my time more productively
Good luck with the boxing, you'll be right on Saturday. Sometimes the less training the better, stay in the moment and focus on the process of what you're doing instead of the outcome and you'll be laughing :good