Max Kellerman: Marquez wins 1st bout by 3, 2nd bout by 1, 3rd bout is a draw

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  1. MarioBrothers

    MarioBrothers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think he had it in reverse, most people would have the 1st one as the closest one. It all brings down to scoring being subjective, despite differences in scoring of the rounds, it is generally accepted that marquez won and gave the impression of being the better fighter.
     
  2. Suga

    Suga Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First one is debatable, nr 2 and 3 is Marquez
     
  3. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i could never see marquez winning the first or second
    third was a toss up
     
  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :deal Pacman did not win any of them.
     
  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not watched the vid and I'm not sure what he's implying, but if he's of the notion that the fights between them are getting closer, then I kinda' disagree. I feel the opposite, in fact. For me, Pac narrowly won the first, narrowly lost the second, and lost the third. It seems like the more they fight each other, the more JMM learns from him and the clearer he wins.
     
  6. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just watched it, and whilst I do disagree with his scoring, he does make some excellent points. One in particular, which I've been saying all along, is his 'the threat has become more powerful than the execution' observation. An excellent way of describing Manny being so fearful of JMM countering him, that he's neglected his own attack to nullify JMM's counters.
     
  7. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    :deal
     
  8. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    I don't have an exact scorecard for any of the fights but I thought Pac the first and clearly at that, I thought 2nd bout was a toss up but a very,very slight edge to Pacquiao, and the 3rd bout I thought Marquez won.
     
  9. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    First one Marquez won

    Second one was very close but again Marquez won

    Third one clear victory for Marquez
     
  10. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I think Kellerman has his scoring wrong personally but its a very subjective issue

    I am not a judge, therefore i score rounds exactly how i see them, who is being more aggresive, who is landing the cleaner work, or a mix an match of the 2

    Thats how i score fights, i normally lean towards the aggressor in close rounds if theres not much seperating them but not in this case, i felt Marquez was just the superior boxer to Pacquiao over the course of the 3 fights.

    My scores for the trilogy were as followed :

    Pac - JMM 1 - Pacquiao 114 - 112
    Pac - JMM 2 - Marquez 114 -113
    Pac - JMM 3 - Marquez 116 -112
     
  11. el_indio

    el_indio Member Full Member

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    Pac - JMM 1 - Pac clearly
    Pac - JMM 2 - Pac very close
    Pac - JMM 3 - A draw in my opinion
     
  12. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    This!
     
  13. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I scored the 3rd fight a draw, but there were two rounds that one could have given to JMM, but I fail to see how anyone could score the 3rd fight to Pac, as there was no way that he won 7 rounds.
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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  15. danieljenkins

    danieljenkins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Had jmm all 3 but the last fight I had Jmm winning easy