Ward did not put a clinic on against Froch at all. Just rewatched

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Shut it yes man, you hold no opinions here
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good post
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Ward is a better boxer than Joe. Even Ray Charles can see it.
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Theres an E in Bailey dipsh#t :patsch
    You just cant seem to get it right Robert, its a wonder they havent banned you for that
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Interesting :think
    Some feel he lost to Boone and only drew with Bika.
    His record could be 24-1-1 in some opinions
     
  6. bailey

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    Proven how?:oops:
     
  7. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't care much for Ward's style and I haven't rewatched the fight, but I remember being impressed during that fight because I thought for once Ward just plain outfought someone instead of doing that John Ruiz impersonation. We must have watched different fights.
     
  8. bailey

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    Says you coming out with that rubbish :lol:

    How do you believe that, when Wards best win is a rusty, past best, double vision suffering fighter that Calzaghe took the 0 of?

    Look at this and try not to duck the questions

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    Calzaghe beat 3 undefeated fighters who had or went on to claim a SMW title.
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    1. Someone tell me which top undefeated fighters Ward has beaten?
    2. Tell me which top undefeated world champs Ward has fought?


    Lets read the answers
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    Andre Ward............VS.............Joe Calzaghe
    Froch.....................................Kessler
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    (Kessler beat Froch)
    Kessler...................................Eubank
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    Dawson..................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Dawson no pedigree at all at SMW)
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    Abraham.................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to AA who had done nothing at SMW)
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    Bika.......................................Brewer (Bikas best win became Manfredo, Brewer had beaten H Graham and was a SMW champ)
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    (Bika was a Calzaghe left over at that time and had been out of the ring bar less than a round for a while)
    Green.....................................Woodhall (Woodhall a SMW champ, who had beaten a reigning SMW champ, a world rated former champ, a future SMW champ and Branco a world rated SMW who became WBA LHW champ, who at SMW beat R Reid and G Johnson who when old and shot KOd Green)
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    Miranda...................................Bika (Bika now a top 5 SMW had drawn with 3 time SMW champ Beyer)
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    Buchanan (?????)......................Sheika
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    (Sheika was coming off a win over G Johnson and was a top 10 SMW at the time)
    Camou (?????)..........................Veit (Veit a SMW title holder who had a fair resume, better than at least 2 of the current top 5 SMWs)
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    Then include the
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    win and then the other top 10 SMWs and its clear Calzaghe is well ahead. I could have put
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    ahead of Green, Camou, Miranda, Buchanon

    Very clear but nobody will have a sensible answer to say otherwise, it will just be a lame Faileys losing it answer when they cant debate against

    Somebody tell me how Ward has done more than that.



    Nobody can counter the above or answer the questions. In fact they hide from the questions :lol:
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Many rounds were competitive, however you scored them.
    You can have fights where all rounds are close but you could have a 120/108 end card, but here rounds were close and Froch without the commentary looked to have taken several of them, just not enough for a draw or decision, but not massively behind as 2 of the cards revealed.
    Many are fooled by commentary and official cards, whichever suits their agenda
    Fair comment, and honest. I think Ward won.
    Froch put on a clinic against Abraham
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Many supposedly were, but they couldnt beat him.
    Floyd Mayweather is a better boxer than Jose Luis Castillo, but many feel Castillo beat Floyd when they first fought.
    There are several other examples that can be pointed to
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ward looked far more compossed compared to Froch who looks awkward, but Ward looked to win many rounds by laying on Froch and holding him against the ropes, similar to what Guerrero did to Berto last night.
    Ward was probably heavier on the night and physically stronger than Froch, but Froch was always throwing shots back, and Ward was trying to stay close to neutralise the leverage of Frochs shots which did work to a degree, but many rounds were very close and Froch was winning some rounds
     
  12. Broxi

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    It was a tale of Ward controlling the fight with his jab at his range, Froch being forced to lunge in and either getting caught with short hooks or tied up and caught with hooks off the break and Ward countering Froch all night leaving him confused and befuddled.

    The fact that you start your fight analysis with an Even first round says it all.
     
  13. yeyo monster

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    ward had beat the best competition at 168 and beat the best fighter at 175...deal with it
     
  14. bailey

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