Ariza "Manny not following strength program; falls apart in fights"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mellamomarcos, Nov 29, 2012.


  1. mellamomarcos

    mellamomarcos Active Member Full Member

    1,285
    3
    Mar 10, 2010
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7_AiRF6_Gk[/ame]

    So let me get this straight, first freddie says trainers like ariza are BS and then Ariza says that Manny always falls apart when it comes to fighting Marquez. I didnt expect to hear that Manny is not doing Ariza's program and even more surprised to hear him compliment Herida's work with Marquez.
     
  2. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,382
    0
    Aug 25, 2010
    This is getting better and better.
     
  3. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

    48,785
    28,891
    Oct 23, 2011
    Best camp yet!

    Sounds like Pac is just doing his own thing...

    Probaly just chilling trying to go into the fight with an all out care free attitude and mentality...

    After 4 rounds though he will realise and think "**** i'm old!"
     
  4. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,285
    5
    Aug 16, 2010
    Same ****. Different day. Sadly Ariza should be given more credit for Manny's advancement over Roach.
     
  5. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,382
    0
    Aug 25, 2010
    So Roach is barking PED's, and Ariza is praising hes Teacher Herida?
     
  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

    20,005
    7
    Mar 8, 2007
    Fuk is wrong with Pac?? This is the fight to juice up.
    Hes going to get destroyed.
     
  7. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,398
    904
    Nov 24, 2012
    Wow. Are you serious? Training a fighter is a team effort these days but the advancement a fighter sees is mostly due to the regime the head trainer incorporates. Not the conditioning guy. Ariza is great at what he does but he doesn't refine Manny's technical skills or abilities. Ariza makes sure that his client's body is in condition to perform at a high level, maintaining intensity throughout.
     
  8. All this **** is coming out right now because there is a serious lack of interest from boxing fans and casuals alike about this fight. Arum is taking his gag-order off all the people involved in Pacquiao's camp to try and drum up some interest.

    Expect the same fight you saw in the third fight with Pacquiao getting the W again.
     
  9. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

    32,270
    3
    Apr 30, 2010
    Ariza studied under Duane Ross didn't he?
     
  10. mellamomarcos

    mellamomarcos Active Member Full Member

    1,285
    3
    Mar 10, 2010
    man, i saw Ariza gets fired after this next camp..
     
  11. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

    48,204
    9
    Sep 16, 2008
    more baby mama drama from pac team
     
  12. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

    24,013
    16
    Nov 29, 2007
  13. Higher Animal

    Higher Animal Member Full Member

    290
    0
    Aug 24, 2012
    Manny has so much natural talent and strength anyway it might actually be a good thing that he's focusing more on boxing skills.
     
  14. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

    48,204
    9
    Sep 16, 2008
    if he went back to the old way of training vs. diaz and cotto, just imagine what he would do to jmm. different outcome perhaps. hes not that manny any more. hes less relentless and more focused on boxing and technique like ariza said
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

    27,489
    439
    Sep 27, 2008
    No version of Manny even the best one would do **** to Marquez. Tho a beast and a speed demon he gets frustrated. The little rhythm he does have that supposedly Cotto, Hatton, and others couldn't figure out Marquez and Bradley have. He can't outbox Jmm and if he fights him now overaggressive Jmm counters the **** out of him. Only way to beat Marquez is to make him lead and counter him like Floyd did. Manny is an underrated counterpuncher, Manny even dropped him with a counter in the rematch, but he's too limited. He needs to realize Jmm is not Cotto or Margarito he's a much greater threat and fighter than those 2. There were no excuses for Pacman's last performance he got beat by the better man.