Mundine vs Soliman

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by OSKA, Mar 9, 2008.


  1. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's a top fighter, he has to tell himself that, he can't say to himself i was 100% and i lost, he needs reasons to keep himself training and full of confidence. Kessler is a classy guy and he is not taking anything away from Calzaghe.

    As for this fight i think it's lose-lose for Mundine, he's fighting a guy he's already comprehensively beaten, if he doesn't win in a similar fashion it might take some confidence away from him and mundine needs confidence, i think Mundine is slowing down and this fight will give a good indication of where he's at, so that's one plus for this fight.
     
  2. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    I dont think the mouth is slowing down i just think he is relying on the power shot too much now(his right hand).

    He still delivered quick 1.2's on hamdan but then stands back to admire himself or something.

    He needs to use his speed and decent power in a more relentless fashion.


    Wait a second im still talking about Mundine.**** THIS ****.

    Im outta here.
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Jose "The Bandit" Sulaiman will not have a chance! LOL!
     
  4. pecks

    pecks ***** Full Member

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    I'm not defending Mundine and his excuses, just pointing out that Kessler is a bit of a whiner at times.
     
  5. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well boxers are seldom 100% - they nearly always have some injury.

    Kessler had a bad hand before Calzaghe - it prevented him from sparing for a few weeks, but according to himself it was OK in the fight - which the fight pretty much shows us - as his right lifted Calzaghe of the floor a few times - if he did that with a broken hand, well then it doesn't mater if his hands are broken... and furthermore 2 weeks of sparring wouldn't have won Kessler the fight (a proper trainer might, but that's a different story) As for Kessler claiming to be ok before the fight ... this fight was his careerhigh payday - by far - so of course he didn't risk it being cancelled. It all comes down to overconfidense on Kessler's and especially his trainers part.

    Prior to the Beyer-fight Kessler hurt his ribs a bit - a pretty common Injury. This is only a rumour though, I've never seen Kessler confirme it. I have no knowledge of an injury prior to the Andrade fight.

    As for the Mundine-fight he was badly injured before the fight. He did no roadwork for 6 weeks and only 30 rounds of light sparring (normally he does 100-150 rounds of live sparring).He should never have fought that fight, but the WBA was going to strip his if proponed the fight again - WBA and teampalle wasn't good friend at that time - still isn't. If you look at how Kessler fought it was very clear that he was not in his normalform - he was out of air by round 4 and threw much less punches than he normally does. Anyone who have seen two Kessler-fight can see that. The Mundine-fight is also the only fight that Kessler contiues to claim that he wasn't 100% - and far from it.

    In summary - Kessler was below top form versus Mundine - quite a bit - against Calzaghe he was as close to 100% as a boxer can exspect to be.

    If Mundine ever grows the balls to fight a live opponent again then I'm convinced you'll see the difference between Kessler in his form against Mundine and Kessler in perfect (or close) form, and it wouldn't be pretty for Mundine.
     
  6. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're getting soft ozziebattler, what's going on.

    You might be right, he can get away with admiring his work against sub-par opponents, he'll have to step up his workrate against better fighters. Mundine better be careful he's not developing too many bad/lazy habits fighting the guys he's been fighting.
     
  7. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    I have been looking at most(obviously not all) of the top fighters of today and one thing stands out for me.

    Relentless workrate.

    Eg:Calzaghe,pacman,pavlik etc.

    Mundine is never going to fight the balls and all style the guys mentioned above do but he has to pick things UP in the workrate department.

    I will give the mouth his props as he is very accurate with his shots.

    So why not throw a few more per round???

    Throwing 2 or 3 awesome rights and the odd accurate 1-2's can only get u so far.

    With his defence and accurate attack all he has to do is step up the workload and great things will come for the man/mouth.

    OH I NEARLY FORGOT....FIGHTING SOME TOP TIER OPPOSITION WOULD HELP ASWELL.
     
  8. Super_Fly_Sam

    Super_Fly_Sam Aus Boxer Full Member

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    **** this is bull****.. im a Mundine fan but he is goin backwards constantly and is makin it very very hard to support him...


    someone needs to tell him if u constantly face poor opposition sooner or later your gonna drop to there level....


    know one wants to see him end up like Andrew Golota who had all the skills to be one of the best but lacked the mental strength until it was to late and he no longer had the physical abilities anymore
     
  9. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you are right then that makes Joe and even better fighter than I thought and the gap between 1st and 3rd in SMW huge..
     
  10. scorpy

    scorpy Veni, Vidi, Vici Full Member

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    You have to lose once to know what it is, what it feels like.

    Lots of boxers go out there and have fights with little injuries thinking it doesn't matter or thinking they have no choice whatsoever.

    Most probably Kessler had fought injured before and won and didn't fully understood how important it was to be 100% when facing a guy like JC.
     
  11. atommo86

    atommo86 New Member Full Member

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    The Question is when is going to step it up and have the balls to goto the States and fight
     
  12. scorpy

    scorpy Veni, Vidi, Vici Full Member

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    Mundine is making plenty of money fighting in Aussieland. He does not need nor should he take a paycut just to fight in the states. Of course, it could be his only way of landing that big fight he's always talking about.
     
  13. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    Didnt know you get balls for simply going to the states :huh
     
  14. scorpy

    scorpy Veni, Vidi, Vici Full Member

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    Yeah, you get them on your first trip and after the third one, you get golden ones. :nut
     
  15. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    Apparently its the only place in the world.

    Did you know that??

    Apparently there aint anything else outside of the U.S.A.

    Fair dinkum ****wits.