who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas

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  1. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    I just saw a question on ESB about how good was Fernando Vargas. So I ask this comparison. Who was better of these two?
     
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  2. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Miguel cotto had a damn sure better career
     
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  3. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Miguel Cotto has many accomplishments, and Tito Trinidad beat the **** outta Fernando Vargas. His chin was half as good as Miguel Cotto'.
     
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  4. Low Blow Combos

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    Cotto because he actually reached his potential, he isn't an "if" like Vargas is.
     
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  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Vargas peak vs Miguel peak..I'd say Vargas was a tad better and beat better fighters at his best.

    Cotto wouldn't have been that competitive with a welter Tito or even Quartey for that matter..I know size comes into it but Miguel was at his peak early welter days.

    Cotto's career is better though..mainly because he fell off less so when he was beaten and he was able to achieve something even when into his decline.
     
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  6. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My boy, COTTO!
     
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  7. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't see Cotto lasting half as long against Trinidad though.
     
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  8. JMP

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    Vargas was better at his best, but Cotto has the longer list of accomplishments and a deeper resume.
     
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  9. HawkFan16

    HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime Full Member

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    Cotto has had a better career and has a better resume... but with that being said, a prime Vargas destroys the 154 pound version of Cotto (though in Cotto's defense, he's undersized and past prime at this weight.)
     
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  10. difO

    difO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    vargas without even trying...
     
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  11. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cotto more accomplished, Roided Vargas would knock him out, however.
     
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  12. kirk

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    I think Vargas at his best (1999-2002) was better then Cotto at his best (2006-2008 )

    I also think a non shot Vargas beats Cotto H2H.

    So in terms of who I think was actually the better fighter? Id go with Vargas.

    However, I think Cotto has had the better career.

    I think based on that, if I was to rank who was 'greater' I would rank Cotto above Vargas.
     
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  13. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hard to tell, Cotto was never hit by Trinidad.:deal
     
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  14. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ha ha, I voted Cotto based on accomplishments but h2h at 154 you're right.
     
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  15. JMP

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    Yeah, can't possibly see Cotto at 154 beating a prime Vargas. He'd be chopped down and outdone comprehensively by a bigger, stronger, and more physically gifted/able fighter at the weight.
     
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