How long until Ward's resume eclipses Calzaghe's?

This thread was destined to turn into boxrec warrior ****. There's only one poster with Joe Cal boxrec **** saved on his hard drive.

You knew this would happen.

 

Its just better to ignore that douche!:good

Not about to read that copy and paste bull**** from him!

 

Wish you'd made this vote public. Really want to see which Jokers voted 'Never'. :think

Besides Failey of course.

 

Lots of fighters say lots of crazy **** when making comparisons, and frequently to draw attention to themselves. We can watch the fights for ourselves and don't need to take their word for it. I like Bika and don't doubt he believes that, but personal testimonial has no place in a resume discussion.

If you want to stake Calzaghe's claim for greatness on the shoulders of Byron Mitchell, by all means, have at it. That's a solid B-level win, nothing more.

Adamek was undefeated at 175 and a significant favorite versus Dawson. You can't very well discredit that win, particularly as Adamek fought hard and got a late KD. Johnson was a legitimate top-five LHW who beat a better version of Tarver than Hopkins or Dawson did. He also fought well against Clinton Woods, another solid guy in his prime.

Pavlik has shown nothing above 166, and the Hopkins fight was at 170. Dawson has by far better credentials at 175 than Hopkins. Surprised anyone would even attempt that argument.

 

Done did.

 

GJE, his three alts, Headbanger, his alts. Once the "team defeat" guys really fire up the alts it will get closer. I'd say 30ish never votes by tomorrow.

 

No ****. Need to bow out of that one and go work out. Agree that Hopkins moving up rejuvenated his career, but he really wasn't the same after about 2002. I think that's when he turned 35. Anyway, thanks for the discussion. :rasta

 

Ward - Dawson, Froch, Abraham, Bika, Green, Kessler and now Pavlik

Calzaghe - Jones, Hopkins, Kessler, Bika, Lacy, Eubank, Reid, Mitchel, Brewer, Woodhall, Veit 2x, Sheika, Starie

Hopkins (2008) > (2012) Dawson
43 Year old hopkins went onto beat Pavlik and Pascal and become oldest world champion at 46

Kessler (2007) > (2009) Kessler
Ward spoiled and fouled only to get a TD win after Kesslers lay offs and defeat to calzaghe

Bika (2007) > (2010) Bika
Bika was sharper and harder to hit in 2007, Joe won more decisevly

Eubank (1997) > (2011) Froch
Froch is technically clumbsy whilst Eubank was a more crafty fighter

Brewer (2002) > (2010) Green
Brewer should have been IBF champion, Green went onto to get ko'd twice and lost to miranda

Mitchell (2003) > (2012) Pavlik
Mitchell was prime and should have been WBA champion whilst Pavlik is a recovering alcoholic with losses to hopkins (175) and martinez (160)

 

Oh my God, you give Brits **** for hyping their fighters. You lot take the ****. You treat Ward like he is literally the son of God. That mutha****a gets exposed real soon...... #theghost

 

already has, hell pretty soon hell eclipse b hops resume