Anyone see a pattern with Freddie Roach?

Please tell me how Pacquiao has been exposed you idiot. He got caught by a MASSIVE shot, thats it end thread.

 

Manny beat Bradley with ease and was winning this fight by 3 rounds until the knockout so I don't know where the idea of Roach being clueless is coming from.

What was he expected to do? Get in the ring in the last 10 seconds and pull Manny away?

 

I think after 60 fights, Pacquiao has already been well and truly exposed.

Learn the meaning of the word you twat before you use it.

I bet you say ''bias'' as opposed to ''biased'' and ''loose'' as opposed to ''lose''

 

what's your expierience in boxing and coaching mate?

also what drills and exercises would you have done to improve his reigime?

 

I'll have to agree with you there, a lot easier to talk about it all on a forum than it is to put it into practice.

A lot of the idiots on here think that they could actually becime a p4p number 1 boxer or atg trainer if only they could be arsed to go down to the gym and put the work in.

Funny because most of them get their predictions wrong at least as often as right and talk absoulute rubbish when trying to pretend they have a technical knowledge.

 

It's obvious to anyone not in complete denial that Roach is slipping, Khan was smart to get out when he did. Chavez Jnr gets taken out by Sexy Sergio next :hey

 

Chavez got beaten by a fighter a class above him, Yet near nocked him out.

Pacquaio got caught with a massive shot from JMM, who will give him problems no matter what trainer he is with. He beat Bradley with ease.

Khan is just not that good.

 

Chavez spent the first 11 rounds looking absolutely clueless against a smaller, older opponent. Roach was no help whatsoever.

Manny was wide open and walked onto a massive counter, just like Khan did. Roach's style just doesn't fit Khan, "good" or not he needs a more defensive minded trainer.

 

Pacquiao has made Roach look good, but you also can't deny the improvements Pacquiao has made under him. Roach also made Khan into a world champion after that crushing loss against Prescott. Khan DID improve under Roach, and anyone who denies this must have an agenda against Roach. I noticed during Khan's fight with Peterson (I think) that Roach seemed to be shaking a lot more than usual and seemed very quite in the corner. IMO he was also very poor in the corner with Chavez jr against Martinez. Pac and Khan are not too good on the inside either. It's not a problem for Pac, as he was still able to become p4p no1 despite this. Besides, Wladimir can't fight on the inside either. Still, Khan is not Pac, and does not posses the power and physical advantages that Wlad possesses. There is nothing to stop opponents getting on the inside, and Khan could do with learning how to at least tie his opponents up so he doesn't have to resort to pushing, like he did with Peterson. Is Roach a one dimensional trainer? Maybe. Maybe the attention and hype also did go to his head. He started trash talking and predicting which round the KO would come etc. Good trainer, but not a magician.

 

Khan and Manny have definitely made massive improvements under Roach, and a lot of their flaws have more to do with their own faults that Roach's as a coach. But Roach's disease is clearly having a detrimental affect on his abilities as a trainer, it's sad but it's true (and inevitable)... the results speak for themselves.

 

It was a fight that paq was a point up on the scorecards, he got caught and KOD **** happens.
How you go from that to saying its roaches fault is beyond me. Hes taken pac to the top of the game with an attacking hard hitting style, including 2 wins (however debatable) against the man that kod him.
Pac like khan was sparked out before they even hooked up with roach, that it happened again is hardly an indictment on roach is it?

 

Same old arse bandits getting their knickers in a twist?

What a surprise!

Bless. ....Have you all just gotten out of bed, been asleep all day have we?

Manny Pacquiao was exposed, and I will explain why, he was exposed all 4 fights with Marquez. Marquez simply had his number and Pacquiao didnt have Marquez's, thats just the way it is, things will never ever be the same, oh yeh.

And last night was noooooo f*cking different!

Manny came out fighting a fight right into Marquez's hands, more so than the previous fights between the two, and whilst I had Manny winning, he was winning because Marquez was waiting for the right time to commit. Manny was dancing around and getting confident, it was all apart of the Marquez gameplan. You saw what he was trying to do on the first knock down, boom pow, out of nowhere!

He was utterly exposed last night, face down and out cold, Marquez knew coming into this fight he had to work on power, so he came in, in the best shape of his career, with lots of upper body muscle. His work in camp was clear on 24/7, he was working a lot harder than Pacquiao. Hard work and dedication pays of.

Add to the fact Marquez and lots of people feel, Manny has NEVER beaten Marquez. Add to the fact the last fight was a shameful robbery, Marquez just did what he does best, focused, head down.

Manny came in smiling and joking, like all training camp.

He was exposed, I know you cant stand people using the word you Batty Boy, but he was exposed, exposed, exposed, exposed. It was like watching Ricky Hatton-Floyd Mayweather, Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao all over again. All be it, Manny was successful in periods.

This has not been a bias opinion, Manny Pacquiao just got exposed, and loosed the fight.....just for you (BB) aka Batty Boy, aka i dont know **** about boxing, aka grammar policewoman, aka arse bandit, aka leader of the spice girl gang, aka ringleader of the ESB circle.

Now go and get your mothers makeup on, dress up, and have a teddy bear tea party you :tired :good

You Little Miss BB, have just been exposed, and owned, by yours truly.

Night night.

 

Freddie used to be a good trainer until he started thinking he was bigger than the fighters. HBO made him believe he was the best trainer ever.

 

Do you guys HONESTLY think it's down to Freddie? All of his guys are/were mixing it at the top level in the sport. You can't always expect to win, and just because he's had a streak of it, does not mean he's all of a sudden slipping.

No matter what Freddie could have done, he could not stop Amir or Pacquiao from getting knocked out in their fights. It happens, and you can't go and blame something like that on the trainer. There is a big amount of liabilities that go into losses and for you guys, the obvious one to state is the trainer, which is the easy thing to do, but it's wrong. Even with Linares' fight, the man was pitching an easy win up till getting cut up. I guess that was due to Roach slipping too, right?

And lastly, it does not mean they have bloody bad chins. This is boxing, the other ****er is wearing 8oz gloves trying to take your head off. ANYONE can get caught at any moment and be out.