So after last night, should Mayweather deserve credit now by beating Marquez...

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  1. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Apparently a 3 years older Marquez whos the same weight with a couple of extra pounds of muscle with a couple of less pounds of fat, makes the fight a whole different prospect.

    ....listen, unless Marquez has imnproved 100% in the last 3 years, it still end up being a wide unanimous decision for Mayweather.

    The size and strength wont make the slightest difference.
     
  2. Tony OldSchool

    Tony OldSchool Member Full Member

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    Marquez is on steroids now. Of course it would make a difference in a rematch.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    let's see. it's marquez' first fight above 135. lifted rocks to bulk-up and floyd cheated him on the scales. it's the same marquez that pac fought.
     
  4. Bodyshot99

    Bodyshot99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Didn't marquez take a fight at welterweight or junior welter vs some no name after he fought pac a third time?

    He had time to test out the higher weight

    this is what i mean when i say "time to adjust"/"try out"

    didn't he fight floyd as a first time welter?

    and to answer, no, pacs win over cotto was not good
     
  5. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The thing is, Marquez is very well conditioned in this fight, he also has angel hernandez.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It's completely ridiculous to claim that Marquez is better now. He was pfp no. 2 going into the PBF fight and much younger. He has more developed shoulders now. Big deal. That slows him down, but improves his power a little. That's all.
     
  7. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Shut up, tranny. :lol:
     
  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    mayweather a welterweight and pound for pound #1 fighter and the champion vs

    JMM who had over 50 fights at featherweight, and a hand full at 130 and 135

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    and at an age when most featherweights have been retired because little guys career spans are very short

    **** NO HE GETS ZERO CREDIT FOR THAT :patsch:patsch

    ps

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  9. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    Its how funny how *******s legitimise Pacquaio's win over Cotto at a 145 catch weight by saying "it's only 2 pounds"

    Yet when it comes to Floyd v Marquez, those 2 pounds over become the equivelent of Floyd bringing a sledgehammer into the ring.
     
  10. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    good win in retrospect, not great win cause it was juans first at the weight ands the weight issue with Mayweather but solid B+ win. Money a G
     
  11. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's a good win because Mayweather came back after a fifteen month layoff and displayed much of the speed and skill against an opponent who should have been able to have a few moments of success against him, given his technical acumen and accuracy. The fact that JMM couldn't win a single round, and could barely land a meaningful punch is an indicator of how good a boxer FMJ really is.

    But it's not a great win, because it was JMM's first foray into the WW division, and because of the whole fiasco that took place at the scales.

    So Mayweather deserves credit...Just not as much as he would have received under different circumstances.
     
  12. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beat me to it, and summed it up better than I did. :D :good
     
  13. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely. He dropped Marquez a lot better than manny. Plus Marquez couldn't hit him in the ass.
     
  14. jeromejones

    jeromejones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He fought a bloated marquez coming up in weight while not making weight himself. This was marquez during his **** drinking days, pre heredia. Hes a whole new animal now. Still mayweather will always beat marquez because of his style and his performance was still awe inspiring in that fight.
     
  15. locard

    locard Boxing Addict banned

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    **** no, Mayweather deserves no credit for that cherrypick

    It's never been about ¨2 pounds over¨, it's about Mayweather sitting on his ass, while Marquez had to kill himself to make weight for the first time and was unable to focus on training, and then fought in the worst shape of his life against a naturally much bigger guy who ALSO cheated him on the scales.

    (Cheating Marquez on the scales was just the icing on the cake for that disgraceful cherrypicking act)

    That bloated, sluggish version of Marquez was the worst we have EVER seen and Floyd gets zero credit or respect for that





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