Do you think JMM was on something?

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  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not here to degrade JMM. I'm just asking an honest question. Given the circumstances, what do you think?
     
  2. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.

    I've done a lot of training in my life and have a contacts who were very high-level athletes. I know something about lifting weights and conditioning.

    Here's what probably happened with Marquez:

    When you first start to train properly, with weights and nutrition, you make HUGE gains. Enormous gains. That is what happened with Marquez. He finally started to train the right way.

    This is what happened with Pac when he began his work with Ariza. It wasn't "Manny PED," it was "Manny with real nutrition and weight work."

    Then, after that initial 'gain' phase, your improvements level off. That is where Pac is now.

    But JMM was at the 'initial gains' phase, and he gained enough to be able to do what he did against Pac on Saturday.
     
  3. IPitydaFo0l

    IPitydaFo0l ATG in the making Full Member

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    No. Hats off to him, he won that **** on courage and skill. Marquez is a warrior through and through. Gotta give respect, he deserves it.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Potentially.
     
  5. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He may be. Any fighter could be on them. It wouldn't surprise me if both guys in that ring were roided up but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt just like I have with Pac when he was doing amazing things in the ring.
     
  6. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    Probably not, but I don't find it to be relevent. His punches had superb technique to put Pac down and out, and he felt everything Pac hit him with so it's not like he walked through the shots. Pac could have been on something and that shot would have still KOed him.
     
  7. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    No, only *******s do.

    Which is ironic.

    Its also sad how they are blaming Pacs loss on having his toe stepped on.

    Strange bunch they are.
     
  8. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's plausible if it's true that JMM didn't do any type of strength conditioning prior to getting his new fitness guy.
     
  9. #Tremendous

    #Tremendous Active Member Full Member

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    No. Marquez treats his body like a damn shrine. That's the reason why he's still in this game.
     
  10. Villain

    Villain Active Member Full Member

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    Looking at the facts, I do "think" so. I think a whole lot of boxers who haven't been caught yet have been or still are on PEDs. I think last year was just the tip of the iceberg. But innocent until proven guilty so I leave it to the testing parameters that the fighters themselves agree to.
     
  11. It's plausible but any rumour isn't worth **** without evidence in my opinion. If you're spreading **** without evidence than you're not doing anything else but talking ****.
     
  12. But I will say, we have definitely crossed that line in the past few years. Many bold accusations, many more athletes getting caught. I would normally be disgusted at an accusation but anything is plausible at the moment.
     
  13. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's not true.
     
  14. Bad Boyz

    Bad Boyz Sportscenter Full Member

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    NO.

    Just like Hopkins wasn't on something when he beat Pascal.
     
  15. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    He was on the best nutrition deemed legal in 2012.
    Does that make you feel better now???

    Ariza should have been allowed to work w/Pac closer.
    Roach dropped the ball by thinking going back to the roots was going to work.
    Juan came back with some "back to the future ****"

    ****, Hyperbolic chamber, cups ect...