Question about Floyd and Pac styles of fighting

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  1. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True but he dose land hard enough and often enough that he will force pac to change method of attack. Pac defiantly will not keep bull rushing, or one of those right hand will put him down or put him in enough trouble the floyd will finish him..

    seriously how this fight will play out is anyone guess, it favors floyd because of his skill, speed and timing . Of course pac can change all of this with speed and awkward south paw style .. anything is possible .
     
  2. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol no it wasn't, Marquez was retreating to begin with, as soon as he felt pacquiao about to come on he planted his feet and turned over a huge hook

    when has floyd ever done that? floyd is mainly a straight shooter
     
  3. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd plants his feet and fires back a counter after stepping back in EVERY FIGHT.
     
  4. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did KO Ortiz. Cotto and Mosley aren't pure come-forward fighters. They can box a little bit. Manny can only come forward. Think of the Hatton fight.
     
  5. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i used to think it would be a Mayweather shut out but after thinking more about it i think it can be a hard fought fight that will push both to the limi
     
  6. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes it was, marquez setup a trap for many which fell right into.. That punch was not thrown out desperation but planed.

    when has floyd stepped back and did that shot .. plenty .. how many time did you catch ricky hatton with a step back right hand ? two many to count.
     
  7. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch my bad i forgot about that ending but i think Pacquiao can box a little better than Hatton if he respects Mayweathers power
     
  8. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've always favoured Mayweather against Pac, but with that said...

    Mayweather likes to throw before or after his opponent -- he either leads with pot shots or he neutralises their attack by evading/blocking/rolling, and then shoots his own in. He doesn't often aim to throw a devastating power punch with all his weight while the opponent is throwing their own shots, because it's a risky strategy, and you might get caught yourself while attempting it. I do remember a moment where Mayweather actually was attempting to punch with his opponent and hit them while they were still throwing (the check hook moment with Hatton) but even there he was pivoting away while he threw the shot, darting off to the side.

    It's very different to what Marquez did, which was to basically move forward instead of backwards, putting all his power and weight into one big right hand with mean intentions.
     
  9. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Correct. But Floyd will land it much more frequently.

    This guy Victor knows what he's talking about. Not because we agree but because he's basing his logic on sense.

    Some of these Pac****s are saying how Pac will outbox Floyd. wat? Pac's offensive rush will not fare well against a fighter who has longer reach, is taller, one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time, one of the greatest counter-punchers of all-time, one of the most accurate punchers of all-time. Pac is just fast. That's it. Well, rest assured, Floyd's fought plenty of fast guys before.
     
  10. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree it will keep landing all night unless they can focus on defending against it in camp ( i doubt it)
    but i dont think Mayweather will try to KO Pacquiao with it, i mean even Marqeuz who had had 36 rounds with Pacquiao got hurt in order to land it
     
  11. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bull**** JMM KO 64% Pac 62% Mayweather 60% if he has a poor KO % so do the KO kings, stop the hate.
     
  12. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    holy fu*k :patsch

    it wasn't a step back counter, Marquez was retreating to begin with, the whole purpose of retreating is that you're at the advantage always, you can choose when to fight and your opponent is the one that has to be ready for anything, if you want you can just continue retreating until you you feel like striking

    a step back counter is an opponent throwing a punch, you stepping away from it and THEN punching back
    Marquez didn't step back when pacquiao threw, he planted his feet when pacquiao threw, thus remaining in the pocket and using the torque for the punch(torque of his body) to avoid pacquiao's punch

    floyd majority of the time(other guy mentioned ricky hatton fight) he leans his face foward so he has room to do his pull counter, for that it's two different motions, he pulls back, then pushes foward completely different from marquez and a very much weaker punch
     
  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    No to mention the fact that JMM can crouch and fire off from angles below Pac's field of vision. Big advantage. JMM also turns his head and body leftwards, whereas Floyd nearly always leans back or slips by crouching towards his right side.
     
  14. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont even know why you brought this up, i sure didn't say anything like Marquez was throwing out of desperation.
     
  15. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    Indeed , many people underestimate Floyd's power punching but they forget that he's a defensive fighter , not an offensive one. I'm very sure that Floyd has more raw power in his right hand than Pac in his left hand. As for his chin , just look at the Mosley fight where he was caught with some hard clean shots and he bounced back pretty fast , so Floyd's chin and recovering system are very good.

    Bottom line , if a 2009 Pac would fight with and 2011 / 2012 Floyd, I think Floyd would stop Manny cuz he would land on Pacquiao's button too many straight right hands.

    The only lefty that has good chances to beat Floyd is Martinez @ 154 pounds.