I think i might be "overtrained"

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Aziz_B, Dec 11, 2012.



  1. Aziz_B

    Aziz_B New Member Full Member

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    Counting actual boxing training at the gym + my sprints and weights i would say 10-13 times a week. Always try my best.
     
  2. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You having trouble at Home, Girlfriend Problems, trouble at work.
     
  3. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That's a completely irrelevant question, I don't think you understand what overtraining syndrome is.
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After doing a bit more research it seems I did misunderstand it. :dead
     
  5. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That seems to sum it all up pretty well.

    By that I'd guess the OP is "overreaching" not overtraining?
     
  6. dealt_with

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    That's a pretty good summary but I don't know how the author is determining what true overtraining is, it is multifaceted and there is a large subjective component to it, there are markers but in the same way there are markers with depression.. the depression analogy is a good one. Chronic fatigue syndrome can result, it's all part of the same continuum. Yeah he'll be overreaching if he stops and rests now, if he doesn't rest he's continuing to be overtrained.
     
  7. JDK

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    Keep it coming dealt/virus. I think this is something we can all very well relate to at some point.
    Though, I do agree that some, if not most, are mistaking this issue with simply not getting enough sleep or a proper diet.
     
  8. pichuchu

    pichuchu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your training hard 10+ times a week and YOU GOT HEART PROBLEMS??
    What the hell? Please say i mis read
     
  9. dealt_with

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    Possibly.. could also be a virus of some sort. I'd go see the doc to rule that out
     
  10. dealt_with

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    Do you have rest days? Unloading weeks? Do you cycle the intensity of your training?
    If the answer to any of those questions is no then you're almost certainly putting yourself in an overtrained state.
     
  11. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This.

    Do some research on periodization. I'm sure we've all made the mistake of trying to cram as many sessions as we can in to one week, but it's not the best way to go about things.
     
  12. catch22

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    Hi, I was wondering if someone can give me some advice. I am a coach who trains amateur boxers and I have 1 boxer whose muscles are always sore and this is frustrating him as he cant train to his maximum. He has had 50+ fights so he isnt a beginner and he trains hard all the time, he knows no other way and if he cant train hard it annoys the hell out of him. He trains 6-10 hours per week, normally closer to 6, he works full time as a boilermaker, sleeps about 6 hours a night, eats very well, has recovery drinks, massages, ice baths etc. The ice baths seem to help to some degree. He had a 2 week break mid to late february and I have tried to mix his training up as much as possible to avoid training the sore muscle groups. He only knows how to train hard and I have tried to get him to train at a lesser intensity at times with no success. At times he also feels drained but a lot of the times he doesn't tell me and just tries to train through it. I have a couple of other boxers who train hard and do the same routine but he is the only 1 that is continually sore. He trains from Monday to Thursday so has friday and weekends off. He might go for a swim or jog on his days off. Any advice would be appreciated. Its getting frustrating.
     
  13. I have actually overtrained in the past when I was boxing, I remember going to the gym and not being able to do anyting and repeating the process of trying and failing, and on the same days I failed in the gym I was tossing and turning in bed all night not being able to sleep or sleep properly.
     
  14. dealt_with

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    There's nothing you can do but educate him. Talk to him about some principles of periodisation, explain that you need fatigue to dissipate to see improvements in performance, and that every top athlete in the world has easy days and unloading weeks. It's always the hardest workers that overtrain, they see their performance decreasing and they think they have to work harder. It's a vicious cycle and once overtraining is full blown it can take a long time to come back from. If you're training hard in an overtrained state then it will achieve the same result as detraining. Does he perform any strength training? It could be muscle imbalances contributing to his soreness if he just does the typical boxing resistance exercises (push ups, sit ups) without doing just as much pulling and lower back work.
     
  15. TorresPromotion

    TorresPromotion New Member Full Member

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    If you train hard you'll need to have a good rest it might be that, you're just not resting enough.