Should Marquez give Pac yet another chance?

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  1. Bad Boyz

    Bad Boyz Sportscenter Full Member

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    I don't think Pac beats him anymore, I totally agree with the rest you said though, both fighters should hang 'em up.
     
  2. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if jmm fights again, he should give that shot to pac.
     
  3. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cry babies shouldn't get rewarded, so NO.
     
  4. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sure lots of money, solidify the series even more, plus Pac did give him fights
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly!

    Team Pacquiao preferred the Bradley fight but not under the conditions Arum layed out for them where Pacquiao would be guaranteed alot less money to fight fight him.

    I think team Pacquiao took the Marquez fight with the mindset that all Pacquiao needed to do is compete in half the rounds as he's done the previous fights and they'd count on the judges to do the rest.

    Freddie Roach has admitted he was suprised buy how hard Marquez was punching, harder than Manny. They never thought Marquez would plant his feet the way he did and shoot straight rights and hooks with the torque he did.
    Are you suprised Marquez can crack Freddie or are you suprised Marquez planted his feet more to put more mustard on the shot.
    Yeah, I know, Manny dont like mustard! :lol:

    Its what happens Freddie when a great fighter is denied dishonestly as Marquez has in all his fights with Pacquiao.
    Its what happens when you say Manny is going to knock Marquez out and prove he won the previous fights.

    Somebody ask Freddie "Coach" Roach is Marquez' brutal KO of Pacquiao proves Marquez won the previous fights??????
    I bet you that cockroach throws you out of his gym! :lol:

    Now people one to act like Marquez power came out of nowhere. That Heredia is the link to Marquez' power.
    Yet Marquez career KO% is a miniscule better than Paquiao's himself.

    His previous fights where he chose to fight toe to toe just because he could, Marquez KTFO of Casamayor and Juan Diaz, two tough lightweights who had never been knocked out, and he battered and knocked out Katsidis. All in high power punching fashion with cherries on top with punches that put exclamation points to the KO's!


    Marquez should ride off into the sunset, 4 for 4, three schoolings climaxed by a brutal massive KO to end all doubt!!!!

    He wont however, Arum is going to dangle money in the ammounts Marquez has never been close to making.


    If there is'nt at least parity in the fight purses between Marquez and Paquiao for a 5th fight, Marquez should just walk away from Pacquiao!
    Marquez does'nt need that kind of disrespect.

    Walkout on top!!!!
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lion's share sounds alot better than parity. It sounds like justice! :deal
     
  7. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:sound like a scared Peetard being afraid that Marquez might lose in a fifth fight :patsch. Yea Marquez is obsessed with a win vs Pac and he should just retire for good.
     
  8. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was Pacquaio that was giving the chances to Marquez. The rematch was necessary for both but after that PAcquaio could have moved on, he was getting bigger fights, bigger opponents and winning impressively, nobody would have complained if he had neglected the third fight with Marquez but he gave him the chance at redemption and again the same result, somewhat controversial and again PAcquaio gave Marquez another chance.
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Then he has every right not to fight Paquiao again.

    Like it or not, Marquez has the leverage. Its Pacquiao who wants redemption. If he wants it bad enough he'll agree to at least parity.
    If he does'nt, Marquez still has options. He can fight Bradley for the Welter title, or he can entice either Cotto or Canelo to come down to 147 lbs for a crack at the man who brutally KO'd Manny Paquiao!

    Another option is another Mayweather fight. Marquez has always voiced that if he had to do it again, he would like to have had a few fights at welter and get accustomed to the weight instead of just blindly rushing to put on weight by throwing rocks over his head.

    Marquez has options, he does'nt exactly need Pacquiao to make good paydays anymore!
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Paquiao did neglect Marquez for years.
    The 3rd fight only happened when the Mayweather negotiations fell through and Paquiao ran out of stationary welters he could hit like punching bags to fight.

    Pacquiao even fought Mosley who had just finished looking like complete utter **** and a shot fighter before he thought about fighting Marquez for a third time.

    The point is that Paquiao postponed every matchup with Marquez for as long as he possibly could.
    This was not a man who was eager to fight Marquez!
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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    If Pacquiao's team is smart they'll dodge a Marquez fight by not paying Marquez anymore than previous fights. You can argue it either way, but there Marquez is probably looking for more money in the next fight and might drop out if he doesn't. If that's the case, Marquez retires and Pacquiao can rebuild his image by fighting Bradley. Pacquiao was looking good in the fight, so if he can rebound mentally and not fight Marquez he can still hype up a Mayweather fight down the line.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marquez is the fighter that has Pacquiao's number though.
    He's the fighter that brings down the notion that Pacquiao was an elite ATG fighter.
    He's the fighters the lends credence to the thought that Pacquaio was fighting slow unskilled hasbeen's at his rise through the Welterweight division.
    Marquez brings down somewhat Pacquiao's whole resume who many would once look at it and say "wow!"

    If I was in Pacquiao's camp, I'd go to fighthing Bradley first and leaving Marquez to get older still.
    Thats definitely the route to take if you're Pacquiao.
    The only thing though is that since Paquiao has been cracked allready, Bradley showed in the second half of his fight with Paquiao that he had somewhat solved his riddle.

    There is not guarantee that Paquiao even gets passed Bradley.
    A loss to Bradley taking in alot less money than a 5th Marquez fight and for all intents and purposes Pacquiao's career is finished.
     
  15. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didnt both fighters say, that they need only a KO to finally end this rivalry and erase doubts?

    I guess not for Team Pacquiao.


    Only the amount of money ARUM is going to persuade JMM with will make him accept the 5th fight.