Why does Mayweather's legacy depend on Pacquiao?

Nah, but good try as usual haters gonna hate

 

Floyd is a great fighter with or without Manny(who is also great), but it'll always be remembered that the probably best two fighters of their era didn't fight each other when they could have, and it does hurt the legacy of both. It hurts Floyd more in my opinion, because he has more of a rep for avoiding challenges and in my opinion he is more the cause of the fight not happening between the two, though both have shame in that regard.

 

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It depends on what legacy he was trying to build. If he wanted to to go down as one of the very best all time greats, then yes it did depend on him beating Pacquiao. It also depended on him fighting the top guys at WW when it mattered, and he chose not to do it.

Pac, alongside Floyd, is the best fighter of this era. The fact that Floyd didnt fight him while they were in the same division for over 3 years is a huge black mark . Not too mention all the other guys he didn't fight.

Because of that Floyd's legacy is not going to be anywhere close to what it possibly could have been. And unfortunately he's going to be remembered more for who he didn't fight then who did.

He will go down as a certified HOF, and a respectable ATG due to his overall achievements. But he won't be mentioned alongside names like Duran, Leonard, Ali, etc.

 

people underrate the fighting everyone out there. Mayweather showed he had doubts about his skills. When that happens we have to have doubts if the fighter himself does.

 

Because he will always be remembered as someone who CAN beat Pac but is AFRAID to do so because his health is more important.

 

This is definitely not true - he came out of retirement because of money. As he said himself "The sport needs it's cash cow". Floyd was pretty clear, when asked on ESPN, about why take on Marquez and why not take on Pacquiao - from his answers it's clear Floyd had no interest in taking on Pacquiao at that time.

Floyd's interest in PAcquiao I think grew after Marquez 3, but only if the reward was so big that he couldn't justify saying no to it. Floyd will not hurt that 0 for anything less than a ridiculous pay day, hence the $40m flat fee - he wanted over $120m-$140m for himself...he won't do 55-45 because the money earned is not worth the risk to his 0

BAck to the thread, Floyd will go down as a great already but he doesn't match up to the Fab 4 in any way, because history, rightly or wrongly, will note that he ducked Pacquiao. I know Arum has his part to play, but Floyd could have had this fight if he were reasonable. Had to be USADA, can't train in Phillipines, 14 days, then 0 days, 50-50, oops agreed to the drug tests then no more 50-50, then it's because of Arum even though Arum has always been part of the equation...come on :tired

So his legacy is assured, but there will be question marks in my view as to why he didn't take it on. Since his comeback his legacy has been slightly tainted because it's clear he retired to avoid fighting in a very strong welterweight division and his resume at welterweight is a joke. If he had stayed retired after Hatton he may be looked upon more favourably

 

the best thing to happen to Mayweather would have been to get a loss to Castillo that time. Then he would not have thought much about the loss aspect of his career.

 

I completely agree. I think getting that loss would have made Mayweather take on bigger names - with that loss on his record he may have taken on Mosley, Marg and Cotto in 2007/2008...fact is since his "comeback" he has fought picked safe fights, combos of shot fighters and much smaller guys, and it's clear his aim is to give fans the fights they don't want to see while making a lot of money off that fickle fanbase and not risking his 0...

 

Personally. It will be mixed remembered as Floyd not wanting to fight Pac.

And also Arum holding back his only cash cow. Which I think it was 75/25 - 75 Arum not wanting to let his cash cow go. 25 Mayweather in no rush to risk his 0 that much.

 

somewhere along those lines. it was obvious from the beginning arum never wanted it

 

Pfp#1 and #2 and they're both in the same division

 

This thread would be unanimous in saying that Floyd needed Pacquiao before Floyd changed his nickname from Pretty Boy to Money and gave his whole image an overhaul. Before fighting Oscar, most boxing fans hated Floyd. Now it's different. That's what simple marketing can do!

If Floyd retired tomorrow, would you be satisfied with what he's done? No, didn't think so.

With the exception of facing Cotto, he's still the same guy who had dreadful campaigns at light-welterweight and at welterweight.

 

I would say it's more 50-50 - Arum has definitely shown more interest in the last 12-18 months - the thing is Mayweather isn't being reasonable. I think before that it was as much Arum and Mayweather being happy not to take risks

 

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