Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins?

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I strongly disagree. Wlad would almost certainly win on the scorecards. Only question is if he makes it there or if Ali could stop him.
     
  2. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Ali makes him look foolish, he makes his brother look worse though. Much worse.
     
  3. ron u.k.

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    I honestly don't know what you base that on. Prime Ali was incredibly fast on his feet,despite what some on here try to assert Wlad isn't,he's a complete plodder in comparison,which is no disgrace most were in comparison to Ali.
    Ali would be too busy and too elusive the big man simply wouldn't get near him.
    I don't think it would even be close.
     
  4. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Ali has handspeed advantage, footspeed advantage, equal reach, better chin, better headmovement, better stamina.

    Ali would dance round him popping off jabs and slipping Wlads.

    Look how infrequently Wlad was able to land on or corner David Haye, and compare Haye's skillset to that of Ali, and he doesn't come anything like close.
     
  5. tezel8764

    tezel8764 Boxing Junkie banned

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    The fact is Wlad hasn't faced anyone remotely on Ali's level mentally he wouldn't even be ready.
     
  6. Vidic

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    Look how Wlad was almost reduced to tears by Haye's taunting

    Ali would give him an anurism
     
  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ali has to get near Wlad, not the other way around. Ali would eat a hand or two whenever he makes a step forward.

    Ali can't walk and tip-toe around on the outside like he did against 99% of his opponents. He'd have to press forward and that'd be a disadvantage for him style-wise.
     
  8. ron u.k.

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    Please,you are having a laugh?
     
  9. madman101

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    All that you say here is true. As for this fight well its speed, skill ,heart ,chin and ring intelligence(Ali) v size and power(Wlad) so what the result ali wins on points over 12 and ko's him over 15 simple really.
     
  10. MAG1965

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    Ali would stop Vlad, but I would like to see how he deals with Vlad's jab.He had trouble with a little Joe Frazier. Vlad would be totally different.
     
  11. Keitaro2187

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    15 rounds or 12 rounds??? Ali wins either way but how long you want the beating to go on for is the real question?
     
  12. MAG1965

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    Ali would have a very tough time. He never saw anyone like Vlad.
     
  13. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is true but Wlad didnt see anyone like Ali before, and for that matter he did not fight a single ATG fighter that could test him and still managed to lose via KO 3 time. I'm not delusional that it would be easy but Ali wins a decision.
     
  14. bremen

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    Wlad would win every round on the way to wide UD.
     
  15. Honor

    Honor Bóg i Ojczyzna Full Member

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    Im a big Ali fan. The guy made HW boxing what it is today. But by all means i'm not trying to make me out to be wrong...I cheer for the E Euro boxers but regardless I have understandable opinions...Personally, I think Wlad outboxes Ali to a easy points win...

    Big George on the other hand, I think he would KO Wlad within 10....Way to strong. George was a beast in his prime. Styles make fights and I think Wlad had a strong chance to beat prime Ali. George is a guy who always had monstrous power and chin...and that imo, in itself would break down Wlad.

    Ali beats Foreman
    Wlad beats Ali
    Foreman beats Wlad