Abraham claims to be negotiating with Pavlik.

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  1. Hermit

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    At a place that they are even deleting hints of now. :nut

    Claims being the operative word here. Saurland has been caught in this lie before. Throw the name out the fans want to hear with NO intention of making the fight. Abraham won't fight a live body unless Saurland doesn't pay what ever alphabet soup org enough to make sure he doesn't have to face a credible mandatory.
     
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  2. Tyler-Durden

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    Well Pavlik ain't a "live body" any longer so following your post this fight could be possible. :think
     
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  3. jimmie

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    Why is he not a "live body" ? he lost the title in a close fight to Martinez (who dominates everyone else) and has won every fight since then.
     
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  4. BatTheMan

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    It's a possibility after Sieglitz II.

    Good matchup.

    I'd favour AA at this point in time.
     
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  5. Taylex

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    That is great news and I hope the settle this one once and for all. No point in Pavlik fighting Ward and getting owned/humiliated.
     
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  6. Tyler-Durden

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    Yeah because he fought Jaco and Sigmon. :patsch Who were obviously live bodies according to our little friend Hermit.
     
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  7. Hermit

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    Abraham won't fight a live body unless forced. This fight will not happen. Saurland knows exactly Abraham's limitations now. Arum isn't dumb enough to let Kelly fight in a Saurland event in Germany. We know what that means.
     
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  8. Scar

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    Hope this is true, this would be one hell of a fight.
     
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  9. Scar

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    Seriously man?, he was forced into the super six where he fought the likes of Ward, Froch, Taylor and Dirrell? How can one be forced to fight four elites consecutively?, he could have pulled a Kessler and escaped with his tail between his legs. That said, since when was Pavlik a live body?, his biggest wins remain Taylor x2 and Miranda, anything else apart from those wins?, nothing. Abraham has a better record than Pavlik at this stage, compared to Pavlik he is the live body.
     
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  10. MAG1965

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    better fight for Pavlik than Ward is.
     
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  11. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great fight and a tough one to call. Two punchers with good chins. I can see Pavlik outworking Abe to a UD if he still has anything left. Sounds like Stieglitz is next for Abraham though.
     
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  12. Tyler-Durden

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    Hahah thanks for putting the dots on the I's man. :hat Hermit is kinda biased isn't he.
     
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  13. Hermit

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    AA could not make MW and vacated his belt to got into the SS so he didn't have his trinket to nurse so that was a different story. Look at Abraham's defenses at MW. He had one solid mandatory that somehow got suddenly demoted/avoided. Forget the name off the top of my head. Saurland thought AA would come in second to Kessler when he put that together. Taylor was known to be shot. Dirrell and Ward were prospects designed to make the Euro's look good. (Boy did that backfire) Kelly is exactly the wrong type of fighter for AA. Too tall and too strong. He can stand back and split the guard or hook around it. They may make Kelly a ridiculous offer, but believe me, it will be ridiculous. AA wanted the friggin moon to fight Kelly before which is why the fight never got made.
     
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  14. jeffjoiner

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    Good thing Kelly isn't known as a body puncher. If this goes down in Germany, it's illegal to hit AA there. Trunks up to the nipples and elbows in.

    It would sell out the Home Depot Center. AA brought a huge crowd here when he fought Ward, and Kelly is training pretty close by.
     
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  15. Tyler-Durden

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    ESB's most biased poster at his finest. :deal

    I invite people to look at PAVLIK's defenses at MW. :thumbsup

    SS was an American project but of course they would throw 2 of their best propsects to make Euros look good ... that makes perfect sense. :thumbsup

    AA would avoid Kelly Pavlik to go fight Carl Froch and Mikkel Kessler, two accomplished champions (who were way more dangerous than Pavlik at that time). That makes perfect sense. :thumbsup
     
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