Kesselr to Ward "I'm not afraid of anyone"

Kessler punches too much and too hard for Dawson. Dawson would be flattened in less than five rounds.


And yes. Dawson has below average IQ. Otherwise he'd never had claimed that he could make 168 after being 190+ in the ring. SMH.

 

oh dear...

you stated, "it didnt matter how dawson entered the ring" and now the tune is "ali was shot and sick". Well either it does matter how a fighter enters the ring or it doesnt, when you´ve managed to agree with yourself, please come back and we can continue the debate.

 

:rofl and what gives you that idea? The bin men tour hes been on since the super six? Stopping Allen Green whole getting dropped in the process. Same Allen Green who got beat down by Miranda and ancient Glen Johnson?

Needing to war with Carl Froch to get a narrow decision in his hometown?

Sorry, Kessler can't handle movement and a good jab. Froch who nobody would mistake for a great boxer was giving him fits playin the boxer in the first half of the fight.

And he's not a guy whos explosive like Pascal nor possesses he athleticism of Pascal or Ward to get the jump on Dawson in order to exploits Dawson's lapses.

Nothin in Kesslers mediocre career says he flattens Dawson in 5.

 

going to war with froch is no shame, he actually beat pascal, the same pascal who beat dawson. The same froch who actually beat johnson better then dawson did. Seems quite pitifull, dont you think.?

you say dirrell is more talented, if dirrell is more talented, why hasnt he beaten all the bin men of the 168 divison and sitting in his couch, while wearing his belt right now.? should be easy for such a talented fighter.

 

Dawson fought a fresher Johnson an while I scored the first fight a draw the second was pretty easy. Thought Froch lost 4 rounds vs Johnson.

And again styles make fights. Why I knew Ward would beat Dawson pretty easy. Athletic ambush fighters wreck Dawson even though without the cut i felt Dawson was on his way to stopping Pascal.

He can't get tv dates. In Europe they love watchin overmatched fighters.

 

MW, I agree with most of what you've said on this thread. One point though, Dirrell and Dawson are both more talented than Kessler could dream of being. However, Kessler is the better fighter than both. I like Dirrell, but Dawson is seriously overrated, he lost to Pascal at his best weight 175, and no way is Pascal better than Kessler. At 168 Kessler takes Dawson

 

you say kessler went to war with froch, as if its something bad and completely neglect, that the "talented" dawson, couldnt even win against a fighter who went to war with froch and lost. So in hindsight, kesslers win isnt that bad is it.?

hehe he cant get a tv slot, that is one convenient excuse.

Here is an idea, it is far fetched, so i hope you can follow me on this one... He could fight his way to the top and earn a title fight, i dont know if its been done before, but its worth a try. Dont you think.?

There is this obstacle though and that is his lack of talent, when it comes to mental strenght, the ability to take a punch and enjoy the pain. He does look good, when the opponents dont hit back.

So its easy to conclude, that kessler is far more talented, when it comes to dealing with what boxing has to offer.

 

Kessler going to war with Froch > Dirrell running away from Froch.

 

Where did I state that it didn't matter what condition Dawson entered the ring? I said I aknowledged that it wasn't a premium Dawson in there but regardless of that fact the performance itself ie very aggressive and infused with speed and technique was still impressive. You for some reason attempted to draw a comparison to Ali's fight with Berbick but failed miserably as anyone with an ounce of common sense could see it's utterly absurd to be comparing a slightly drained 168lb more or less in his prime Chad Dawson to a Parkinsons riddled, shot to **** Muhammad Ali topping it off by the fact Berbick looked like **** and wasn't impressive at all.

I think it's time you read through the posts you're replying to atleast 4/5 times in the future.

 

you wrote you acknowledged dawson being drained and later replied, that it didnt matter how he entered the ring, so while you were disagreeing with yourself, i made an example to show you just how stupid, that pov was. That would the line where you wrote and i quote "regardless of how dawson entered the ring".

i didnt draw a comparison to the ali fight, i made a point out it, because you simply couldnt grasp the stupidity of your own comment, a comment you now disagree with.

your claim is, ward looked ferocious and would stop kessler, based on his performance against dawson. Im challenging that notion, based on the tha fact, that dawson looked lide dlh did agaisnt pac.

done with this one, we wont agree and debating this further will only lead to a repeat of the same old arguments. thanks for the debate and happy holidays.

 

atsch

 

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the same miranda that went on to be mostly dominated and stopped by Tony Bellew:thumbsup

 

Once again you can't seem to grasp the fact that I;

1. Aknowledge the fact Dawson wasn't in the best shape BUT 2. Was still impressed by his (Ward's) aggressive performance.

Ofcourse you tried to compare them but ironically now it's you who's back tracking but only because I banged home how utterly ******ed of you it was to originally compare Ward Dawson to Ali Berbick but i'm glad you see it was a pathetic example and are atleast making some attempt to distance yourself from it or atleast try to rationalise it.

He'd stop Kessler because he's constantly improving as a fighter where as Kessler is not and he's already beaten Kessler once while being relatively green so now he's closer to his prime (if not in it) while Kessler is probably passed it so it makes perfect sense to see a logical outcome where Kessler gets stopped.

Fair enough.

 

Don't know what the rumpus is. Ward beat Kessler quite handily, yes there were headbutts. But Ward outhustled, outfought and outtoughed Kessler.

Regardless, I doubt Kessler is afraid of him. Or anyone really. He's been in there with the best of his generation.