So back in the old days, when..

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  1. gigogreco

    gigogreco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    everything was better, did it often occur, that the best fighters were not allowed to fight for the title.?

    it´s common knowledge, that black fighters had a hard time due to racism, so there are probably a few there. Perhaps there are cases where race wasnt an issue, but a certain fighter never got a shot. Could be an awful promoter, the fighter wasnt not mob-related etc

    So im basically asking if there are fighters, who were ignored on purpose, but you´d bet a good amount of money and pride on, to beat the champ.

    I know it is impossible to say for certain, but on a board where fantasy match ups are argued like crazy, this is clearly the same.
     
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  2. Johnstown

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    sure it happened...no heavyweight got a shot at the title from the time that Johnson beat burns until louis fought braddock... the mod was very powerful in the 50s and pulled some things...kept some guys from getting fights...you also had damn good fighters who didnt have names...so they ended up not getting shots.
     
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  3. the_bigunit

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    Packey McFarland; for the sole reason he would've beaten the champions at and around his weight.
     
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  5. gigogreco

    gigogreco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thanks for the replies, i like the underdog/outcasts stories. Therefore i was thinking about reading a bit about those fighters, who were left out in the cold. Now that i´ve got a few names, i´ll try my luck with google ;)

    just read a bit about greb, these guys werent that fussed about going up in weight. Did they not cut weight in the old days, just a little bit.?
     
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    Fighters have always subjected their bodies to ridiculous ordeals in order to fight in lower weight classes.
     
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  7. Unforgiven

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    Even without the corruption and race discrimination and champions wanting to milk the title and all that ****, with one champion per division and only eight divisions, it would have happened sometimes where some of the best fighters would miss out on a title shot.

    At least these days, there's so many titles around, even the 'ducked' fighters should be able to pick up a belt and some paydays.
     
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  8. Charley Burley

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  9. Charley Burley

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    People made excuses about it being his skin but other black fighters got shots except Burley. He would of beat Sugar Ray Robinson
     
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  10. Drew101

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    I think it had more to do with his talent, and the fact that in terms of style, he was that generation's version of Rigo. A potshot artist who wasn;t well connected probably wasn't getting a shot at a championship, no matter how many fighters he defeated.
     
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  11. 2piece

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    I heard some say Burley was a high risk low reward opponent, and if the money had been right Robinson would have fought him. One could say that about any fighter with SRR in the equation, a business man as well as a fighter.
     
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  12. OvidsExile

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    Tommy Loughran was probably the best light-heavyweight in the world 3-4 years before he got a shot at the title.
     
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  13. klompton2

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    Uhhh no...
     
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  14. Charley Burley

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