Is Lewis also the HW of the 2000's? Discuss.

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  1. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed........Couldnt have said it better myself..:-(
     
  2. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    And while Lewis was champ people said 'HW boxing died with 80s Tyson'. And during the 80s people said 'HW boxing died with Ali'. And during the 60s people said 'HW boxing died with Marciano'.

    Do I need to go on? :deal
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Wladimir, quite clearly is the best HW from the 2000-09 decade.

    His record is 22-2 in the decade compared to Lennox's 5-1. Lennox just didn't fight enough in the decade, period.

    Wladimir's wins:
    Chris Byrd I
    Chris Byrd II
    Ruslan Chagaev
    Samuel Peter
    Sultan Ibragimov
    Lamon Brewster II
    Tony Thompson
    Calvin Brock
    Jameel McCline
    Ray Mercer
    Hasim Rahman
    Plus the infamous losses:
    Corrie Sanders
    Lamon Brewster I
     
  4. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    :patschscared of Byrd and Ruiz... please:lol:. At least Lewis faced off with Rahman which is more than what Vitali managed by pulling out 3 or 4 times, the rematch showed everyone what they needed to know with one of the most beautiful KO's we will ever see. As for the retirement issue, you dont force a 37yr old fighter into retirement in losing by TKO6, its the worst we had ever seen Lewis and Vitali still couldnt get the job done.

    As for the question it cant be Lewis because he retired a 1/3 of the way through it. I think it can only really be Wlad, that era was so poor he's the only real candidate.
     
  5. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    It doesn't really matter does it? In any event it is a subject where American opinions are neither rellevant, nor required, as their fighters dont come into the equation.
     
  6. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    But surely their opinion is impartial, this considering that the majority of them cannot stand anyone from outside their country holding the heavyweight title.:D
     
  7. PowerBack

    PowerBack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This.. Lewis has the best single win, but simply didn't fight enough in the decade to claim that title..
     
  8. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    With all due respect a victory over either Byrd or Ruiz would have been much more impressive than going 1-1 with Rahman.
     
  9. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    But scared of them:lol: little bit extreme. I honestly dont blame Lewis for not fighting Ruiz, Lennox unfairly or fairly depending on who you ask had a reputation for being a tad boring at times. A fight with Ruiz would have been Wlad vs Ibragimov before its time, until Lewis lands the big shot. In fairness im a fan of Byrd and would have liked to see that fight, again it would have had the potential to get quite scrappy hence why i think Lewis decided against it. I dont think thst constitutes as ducking in the most true sense of the word, as in being afraid of those fighters, more afraid of how damaging those fights could be to future earning potential.
     
  10. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Really?

    Lennox KO'ed Vitali in 2003.

    Exactly WHO did Wlad beat during that decade?
     
  11. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    He was active for a 1/3 of that era, its difficult to rate him no1 if he had so few fights.
     
  12. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Don't get me wrong, I don't think Lewis was scared of them but I think he knew of their ability to make him look bad.

    Lewis v Ruiz would have been Lewis v Akinwande 2.

    Regarding Byrd though I saw an interview on the web about a year ago and Lewis was talking about how he hated fighting southpaws as he couldn't figure them out and it got me thinking of whether he did avoid Byrd.

    Again I'm not saying Byrd would beat him but as you already said it could have got scrappy and I think Byrd would have made Lewis look bad at times.

    On a side note does anyone know how many southpaws fought in his career?
     
  13. Nay_Sayer

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    I agree, however, Lewis does have the TKO6 over Vitali and was the Linear HW champion in that decade up until his retirement in 2004.

    Meanwhile, Wlad is getting knocked senseless by nobodies and NEVER managed to win the Linear title.

    This is a no-brainer...
     
  14. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    I dont actually think Lewis fought any:lol:, i rate Byrd higher than most and think he would have taken some rounds off Lewis and probably taken him the distance. Lewis' ability to keep the fight at range would probably get him the victory though.
     
  15. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You stretching again ... Vitaly got injured several times, and that wasn't Rahman
    who caused such injuries, when you pass 35 you got to be more careful.
    Lewis officially said he rather leave his belt than fight Ruiz ...
    we know Ruiz ain't ATG and that was just shot in his own leg for Lewis

    Re Rahman vs Lewis ... It was beautiful just because Lewis got his a..s whooped
    by an underdog .. Rahman defined his whole career just because of this one shot.
    Lewis started toying with rahman, his careless unprofessional behavior
    resulted in surprise KO ... simply he asked for a free punch and he got it,
    Mayorga thou had better chin than him when he asked for a free one ....

    so in retrospection: person who drops his belts, is acting unprofessionally,
    runs into retirement when had unfinished business .... cannot be #1.
    In 2000 my top 5 list is:
    1) Wlad
    2) Vitaly
    3) Ruiz
    4) Byrd
    5) Lewis